- #1 Polyzone
97% matchNo user reviews
Dev: OxygenStudio
Windows
"Polyzone" is a dynamic war zone where strategy, skill and style collide. Enter the polygonal battlefield, customize your loadout, and join the epic multiplayer experience that will keep you on the edge of your seat. Get the demo for free now and become the best futuristic warrior!
Why similar: Real Time Tactics 16.1%, Military 13.1%, FPS 10.9%, War 10.5%, Modern 8.9%
- #2 Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® III
96% matchMixed46% of 21,582 reviews2023
Dev: Sledgehammer GamesPub: Activision
Windows
Median: 5.1 hrsMean: 26.8 hrs≥1hr: 79%
In the direct sequel to the record-breaking Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® II, Captain Price and Task Force 141 face off against the ultimate threat.
Why similar: Military 15.1%, FPS 14.9%, War 12.4%, Shooter 9.8%, Modern 9.4%
- #3 Combat Journals - Vietnam
96% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Combat Journals
Windows
Combat Journals Vietnam is a realistic first-person tactical shooter based on the first-hand accounts of veterans within the 4th Infantry Division, First Brigade, 12th Infantry.
Why similar: Real Time Tactics 16.7%, Military 16.2%, War 14.2%, FPS 11.2%, Team-Based 10.5%
- #4 Squad
94% matchVery Positive81% of 242,456 reviews2020
Dev: Offworld
Windows
Median: 14.3 hrsMean: 113.6 hrs≥1hr: 93%
Squad is a tactical FPS that provides authentic combat experiences through teamwork, communication, and realistic combat. It bridges the gap between arcade shooter and military realism with 100-player battles, combined-arms warfare, and base building.
Why similar: Military 20%, Team-Based 12.5%, FPS 11%, War 10.2%, PvE 6.9%
- #5 HYPERFRAG
94% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Tyro Interactive
Windows
Instantly dive into ultra-dynamic 1v1 and 2v2 arena combat. Face off in bite-sized, high-speed maps where pure reflexes and a massive, wild arsenal dictate who stays alive. Fast rounds, instant respawns, and non-stop momentum : welcome to HYPERFRAG.
Why similar: FPS 19.2%, Military 14.3%, War 13.7%, Modern 9.3%, Shooter 9.2%
- #6 Arma 3
93% matchVery Positive90% of 294,889 reviews2013
Dev: Bohemia Interactive
Windows · Mac
Median: 14.4 hrsMean: 257.5 hrs≥1hr: 90%
Experience true combat gameplay in a massive military sandbox. Deploy with a wide variety of single- and multiplayer content, a massive arsenal of modern weapons and vehicles, and limitless opportunities for content creation. Authentic, diverse, open - Arma 3 sends you to war.
Why similar: Military 23.3%, War 12.1%, FPS 9.7%, Shooter 8.5%, Tactical 6.7%
- #7 Call of Duty®
92% matchMixed59% of 780,170 reviews2022
Dev: TreyarchPub: Activision
Windows
Median: 12.3 hrsMean: 112.9 hrs≥1hr: 84%
The Call of Duty® experience supports Modern Warfare® 4, Black Ops 7 and Call of Duty®: Warzone™.
Why similar: Military 18%, FPS 15.9%, War 14.7%, Modern 10.8%, Shooter 8.3%
- #8 TakeDogs
91% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Kelyen Games
Windows
TakeDogs is a realistic modern warfare FPS where you will join a special operations group, fight on real maps at 1:1 scale simulating authentic ballistic physics, learn to pilot real aircraft and travel to conflict zones to dismantle terrorist organizations or high-value targets.
Why similar: Military 18.6%, FPS 12.2%, War 11.5%, Team-Based 9.8%, Tactical 9.1%
- #9 Frontline Total Warfare
90% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Army Troop Studios
Windows · Mac · Linux
Join the battlefield in a fast-paced FPS and classic military shooter featuring intense modern warfare, tactical warfare, smart offline bots, multiplayer action, private matches with friends, and bot-supported online battles.
Why similar: Military 14.7%, FPS 12.3%, Team-Based 12.2%, War 11.3%, Tactical 7.2%
- #10 Arma Reforger
89% matchMostly Positive80% of 56,460 reviews2023
Dev: Bohemia Interactive
Windows
Median: 21.2 hrsMean: 94.1 hrs≥1hr: 95%
Engage in massive combined arms battles, create and curate combat missions in real time, and shape your experience with endless community mods. Deploy into the Cold War and experience the most authentic and immersive military sandbox ever created.
Why similar: Military 22.7%, Real Time Tactics 13%, War 12.4%, FPS 11.6%, Shooter 8.2%
- #11 SWAT Commander
89% matchMostly Positive79% of 760 reviews2025
Dev: Red Mountain GamesPub: Ritual Interactive
Windows
Median: 2.0 hrsMean: 3.7 hrs≥1hr: 65%
Take charge of a SWAT unit as an elite operator. Command a specialized AI squad or team up in co-op to seize suspects, rescue civilians, and restore order. Study the briefing, kit out your team, and execute your plan with disciplined precision.
Why similar: Military 17.2%, FPS 13.8%, Team-Based 12.7%, Real Time Tactics 10.5%, Shooter 8.5%
- #12 FIRE STATE
88% matchMixed69% of 335 reviews2026
Dev: UnderFire
Windows
Experience hyper-realistic visuals and fluid controls from an unprecedented Bodycam perspective. The world's first shooter with truly playable 3DGS environments. Every pulse-pounding firefight and precise tactical move is captured by your chest-mounted camera for unmatched battlefield immersion.
Why similar: Military 15%, Team-Based 13.6%, FPS 11.3%, War 11.2%, Tactical 7.4%
- #13 Warfare : Battleground™
87% matchMixed52% of 44 reviews2024
Dev: Waves
Windows
Join Warfare: Battleground, an arcade multiplayer first-person shooter! Fight in a variety of modes using a large arsenal of weapons and destroy your opponents with helicopters and air strikes. Are you ready for battle?
Why similar: Military 21.3%, FPS 15.8%, War 14.2%, Team-Based 13.7%, Shooter 8.3%
- #14 Red Crucible Assault
85% match7 user reviews100% of 7 reviews2025
Dev: Massive Head Games
Windows
Fight through forgotten WWII bunkers and Cold War black sites, battling rival forces to uncover lost esoteric technology buried from history. Every firefight brings you closer to secrets that were never meant to resurface—and powers that could rewrite the modern world.
Why similar: Military 16.6%, Team-Based 14.3%, FPS 12%, Modern 12%, War 11.9%
- #15 Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead
86% matchVery Positive92% of 22,251 reviews2010
Dev: Bohemia Interactive
Windows
Median: 4.6 hrsMean: 80.9 hrs≥1hr: 70%
Three years after the conflict in Chernarus, portrayed in the original Arma 2, a new flashpoint explodes in the Green Sea Region. Coalition forces led by the US Army are deployed to Takistan to quickly restore peace and prevent further civilian casualties.
Why similar: Military 23.6%, War 10.9%, FPS 9.8%, Team-Based 8.4%, Tactical 8.4%
- #16 Insurgency: Sandstorm
86% matchVery Positive85% of 133,036 reviews2018
Dev: New World InteractivePub: Focus Entertainment
Windows
Median: 12.4 hrsMean: 56.2 hrs≥1hr: 93%
Insurgency: Sandstorm is a hardcore tactical FPS built on lethal close-quarters combat and ruthless intensity. Every bullet count, every step matters, and teamwork is your only path to survival in the brutality of modern warfare.
Why similar: Military 21.6%, FPS 19.6%, War 10.9%, Shooter 9.8%, Realistic 9%
- #17 Zero Hour
82% matchMostly Positive77% of 33,360 reviews2024
Dev: AttritoM7 Productions
Windows
Median: 3.5 hrsMean: 11.0 hrs≥1hr: 81%
Zero Hour is a tactical FPS with online team-based game play that takes place in a variety of fictional locations interpreted in Bangladesh with Real-life scale & resource management. It brings a grounded, close quarter combat experience to the game.
Why similar: Military 15.1%, FPS 13.9%, Tactical 12.2%, Team-Based 10%, Shooter 9.9%
- #18 Eminus
83% matchNo user reviews
Dev: LamdaProjects
Windows
Eminus is a new Tactical FPS based on realism. Plan your next move carefully because there is no more room for mistakes. You need to finish the job.This is a difficult game. Don't run and gun.
Why similar: Military 16.9%, FPS 15.7%, War 12.5%, Shooter 10.6%, Simulation 7.9%
- #19 Medal of Honor™
84% matchMostly Positive77% of 11,174 reviews2010
Dev: Electronic Arts
Windows
Median: 1.6 hrsMean: 5.7 hrs≥1hr: 59%
Fight Today's War: Elite Special Forces in a gritty combat campaign using the surgical tactics of Tier 1 Operators combined with the sledgehammer force of Army Rangers.
Why similar: FPS 24.2%, Military 22.2%, War 15.3%, Shooter 10.5%, Modern 7.4%
- #20 WARMONGER:45
82% matchMixed50% of 14 reviews2025
Dev: Kyle WadasPub: Neumont College of Computer Science
Windows
WARMONGER:45 is a large-scale sci-fi multiplayer FPS that features the worldwide conflict between the Federation of America and the United Nations of Eurasia. Face-off in 30-vs.-30 combat to dominate the battlefield using numerous specialized classes.
Why similar: Military 19.4%, War 16.7%, FPS 14.2%, Team-Based 13.3%, PvE 8.5%
- #21 GROUND BRANCH
80% matchVery Positive84% of 24,841 reviews2026
Dev: BlackFoot StudiosPub: MicroProse Software
Windows
Median: 6.8 hrsMean: 19.6 hrs≥1hr: 89%
From one of the developers behind the original Rainbow Six® and Ghost Recon® games, comes a thinking-man's first-person shooter featuring in-depth character and weapon customization. Take your time. Think ahead. Get the job done.
Why similar: Military 24.6%, FPS 14.7%, Tactical 13.9%, Realistic 10.4%, Shooter 7.2%
- #22 World War 3
81% matchMixed54% of 54,576 reviews2022
Dev: New Generation GamesPub: Wishlist Games
Windows
Median: 4.0 hrsMean: 20.8 hrs≥1hr: 77%
World War 3 is a free-to-play tactical online multiplayer FPS where the world is your battleground. Outgun the enemy in thrilling, team-based skirmishes with a huge arsenal of weapons, vehicles, gadgets, and drones at your disposal.
Why similar: Military 15.8%, War 12.8%, FPS 12.4%, Team-Based 11.4%, Modern 9.2%
- #23 Battle Cry of Freedom
81% matchMostly Positive72% of 2,516 reviews2022
Dev: Flying Squirrel Entertainment
Windows
Median: 1.7 hrsMean: 17.9 hrs≥1hr: 57%
Battle Cry of Freedom brings brutal real-time first and third-person combat set in the 19th Century America, presenting players with the opportunity to re-fight the American Civil War as either the Union or the Confederates.
Why similar: Real Time Tactics 18.4%, Military 14.1%, War 11.3%, Team-Based 10.8%, FPS 10.1%
- #24 Havoc
79% matchMixed66% of 1,264 reviews2024
Dev: RAKTWO Games
Windows
Havoc is an arcade tactical first-person shooter with semi-destructible environments. It offers a variety of game modes, including Bomb Defusal, Team Deathmatch, Free for All, and Gun Game, along with extensive options to customize lobby settings to your preferences.
Why similar: FPS 18.4%, Military 16.2%, Team-Based 12.3%, War 12.2%, Shooter 12%
- #25 Conflict FPS
79% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Total Rush Games
Windows
Conflict FPS is a fast-paced online multiplayer first-person shooter. Create your own game room and choose your preferred mission type and rules or join an existing game server and help bring your team to victory.
Why similar: FPS 19%, Military 18.2%, War 13.8%, Team-Based 10.7%, Tactical 7.7%
- #26 Trench Defender
78% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2024
Dev: Chim Ruoi Games
Windows
An action-packed FPS where you defend your trench against waves of attacking enemies by utilizing a large selection of modern (and not so modern) military weapons, features both single-player and two player online multiplayer (peer-to-peer).
Why similar: Military 18.4%, FPS 17.8%, War 15.1%, Shooter 12.1%, PvE 6.9%
- #27 Operation : Strike & Secure
77% matchMixed67% of 15 reviews2024
Dev: WanderLab
Windows
Operation: Strike & Secure is a tactical and realistic FPS where every shot matters, designed for intense solo or team-based online combat.
Why similar: Real Time Tactics 15.2%, Military 14%, Team-Based 13.7%, FPS 12.4%, PvE 8.7%
- #28 America's Army: Proving Grounds
78% matchMostly Positive79% of 11,053 reviews2013
Dev: U.S. Army
Windows
Median: 48 minMean: 34.2 hrs≥1hr: 45%
America’s Army: Proving Grounds is the official game of the U.S. Army and part of the highly acclaimed America’s Army game series. This free military game focuses on small unit tactical maneuvers and puts you to the test in a wide variety of new America’s Army maps and AA fan favorites.
Why similar: Military 24.6%, FPS 21.5%, Shooter 10.2%, War 9.9%, Tactical 8.8%
- #29 Rapid Impact
76% matchMixed69% of 16 reviews2025
Dev: Rapid Impact Studio
Windows
Rapid Impact is an online PvP-PvE shooter in a post-apocalyptic world. Fight players or AI in various modes. The game evolves with community feedback, shaping its future through player voting! Wishlist Rapid Impact now and be among the first to experience intense PvP-PvE battles!
Why similar: Military 19.5%, War 16.3%, FPS 16.1%, Shooter 10.4%, Realistic 8.2%
- #30 TUBx Tactical
74% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: Moose Byte Studio
Windows
Drop into TUBx Tactical, a fast-paced, classic-inspired arcade FPS built for pure PvP action. Battle your friends in intense 1v1 duels or scale up to chaotic large-lobby modes. Customize your loadout from 20+ weapons, attach game-changing gear like thermal scopes and glow sticks. Get in the TUB!
Why similar: FPS 18.1%, Military 16.8%, War 12.8%, Shooter 10.7%, Team-Based 10.1%
- #31 Project_03
75% matchNo user reviews
Dev: TD
Windows
Project_03 is aiming to give you the limitless experience off playing a game with your friends
Why similar: Military 22.6%, FPS 18%, War 15%, Shooter 12.2%, Tactical 8.4%
- #32 Battlefield™ 2042
75% matchMixed47% of 325,585 reviews2021
Dev: DICEPub: Electronic Arts
Windows
Median: 15.4 hrsMean: 65.1 hrs≥1hr: 90%
Battlefield™ 2042 is a first-person shooter that marks the return to the iconic all-out warfare of the franchise.
Why similar: Military 20.5%, War 16.4%, FPS 15.5%, Team-Based 13.8%, Shooter 8.8%
- #33 Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare®
74% matchMostly Positive79% of 44,703 reviews2023
Dev: Infinity WardPub: Activision
Windows
Median: 6.9 hrsMean: 20.6 hrs≥1hr: 85%
Experience a visceral Campaign or assemble your team in the ultimate online playground with multiple Special Ops challenges and a mix of Multiplayer maps and modes.
Why similar: Military 22.6%, FPS 17.4%, Shooter 9.7%, Modern 9.4%, Tactical 7.4%
- #34 100 KILLS CHALLENGE: ORIGINS
73% matchMostly Negative36% of 67 reviews2024
Dev: Kane Entertainment
Windows
Enter the fray in an intense, fast paced first person shooter experience. Kill using firearms, explosives, drones, and air support. Dominate maps in deathmatch, team, and PVE. Win with tactics - or sheer brutality. Remember: Hundred kills. One arena. Zero rules. May the best player win!
Why similar: Military 18.9%, War 16%, FPS 14.2%, Modern 11.5%, Shooter 9.1%
- #35 Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6
72% matchMixed45% of 15,905 reviews2024
Dev: TreyarchPub: Activision
Windows
Median: 2.0 hrsMean: 11.2 hrs≥1hr: 61%
Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6 is signature Black Ops across a cinematic single-player Campaign, a best-in-class Multiplayer experience and with the epic return of Round-Based Zombies.
Why similar: Military 18.3%, FPS 17.2%, War 15.2%, Shooter 11.6%, Realistic 7.9%
- #36 Ravenfield
73% matchOverwhelmingly Positive97% of 79,893 reviews2017
Dev: SteelRaven7
Windows · Mac · Linux
Median: 11.2 hrsMean: 63.0 hrs≥1hr: 89%
Fight upon the Ravenfield together with your Blue allies! Take down those pesky Reds using helicopters, tanks, guns, and active ragdoll physics!
Why similar: War 22.1%, Military 21.7%, FPS 17%, Team-Based 11%, Shooter 9.6%
- #37 Rise of Liberty
73% matchVery Positive84% of 1,869 reviews2019
Dev: Sandstorm Studios Inc.
Windows · Mac
Median: 1.3 hrsMean: 2.6 hrs≥1hr: 56%
Rise of Liberty is a FPS single-player massive Revolutionary War battle simulator. Fire deafening cannons into the thick of the battle, stand in line formation and fire devastating volleys into the enemy. Gather your men for these monumental battles and defeat the enemy!
Why similar: Military 20.5%, War 20.4%, Team-Based 16.1%, FPS 15.4%, Shooter 9.1%
- #38 PRO: Push React Outgun
72% matchNo user reviews
Dev: EVAGAST
Windows
PRO: Push React Outgun, is a next-gen tactical FPS with realistic visuals. Experience the raw impact of close-quarters combat where every bullet counts. Master strategic positioning and razor-sharp reflexes to win. See the unseen, hear the unheard, and survive under pressure.
Why similar: Military 16.9%, War 14.4%, Team-Based 13.7%, FPS 13.7%, Tactical 8.8%
- #39 Battlefield™ 6
70% matchMixed64% of 363,825 reviews2025
Dev: Battlefield StudiosPub: Electronic Arts
Windows
Median: 19.2 hrsMean: 61.7 hrs≥1hr: 88%
The ultimate all-out warfare experience. In a war of tanks, fighter jets, and massive combat arsenals, your squad is the deadliest weapon.
Why similar: Military 21.6%, War 18.4%, FPS 17%, Modern 10.5%, Shooter 9.1%
- #40 Companions of Victory!
71% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Visual Interactive Studios
Windows
You are Locked-in with a 50 Player Platoon - No man Left Behind. You Fight Together, You Die Together, You Respawn Together. The Team Proximity System is the Foundation for Communication, Coordination and Real Teamwork. Drive, Build, Destroy, Heal, Strategize, Call Airstrikes, Fight for Victory.
Why similar: Military 20.6%, FPS 15%, Team-Based 13.4%, War 10.9%, Shooter 9.1%
- #41 CAM
71% match6 user reviews0% of 6 reviews2024
Dev: Mysterious Studio
Windows
CAM is a fps that has action and a zombie survival mode, featuring a body camera perspective and realistic graphics. Wishlist and share CAM with friends! Sept 28 Update: We are reading your reviews, we are working on improving the game, thanks! !!!
Why similar: FPS 15.4%, Military 15%, War 14.4%, Team-Based 11.8%, Shooter 10.2%
- #42 Armored War
70% matchMostly Positive71% of 21 reviews2024
Dev: New Games Corporation
Windows
Armored War is a realistic multiplayer tactical first-person shooter set in the realities of modern conflict. Take part in ground battles using a full arsenal of weapons and equipment
Why similar: Military 15.3%, War 13.5%, FPS 12.3%, PvE 11.3%, Shooter 8.6%
- #43 V3: KOMMANDO (Tech Preview)
70% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Natural Records Studios INC.
Windows
Kommando is an online competitive tactical shooter set in fictional but realistic locations from all across the globe. It features a competitive 5v5 FPS experience inspired by tactical shooters of the past and present.
Why similar: Military 17.4%, Team-Based 15.8%, FPS 14.3%, Tactical 10.1%, Shooter 8.8%
- #44 Army Troop 2: Modern Guns
69% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Army Troop Studios
Windows · Mac · Linux
Fast-paced old-school military FPS with online PvP, offline PvE, intelligent AI bots, customizable soldiers, and diverse maps. Invite friends to private matches, customize weapons, perks, skins and loadouts, unlock gear, earn killstreaks, and keep one unified Steam Cloud progression.
Why similar: War 18.2%, Military 17.4%, FPS 15.6%, Shooter 10.1%, Tactical 8.5%
- #45 Contain
69% matchMixed57% of 850 reviews2024
Dev: SinginGiant
Windows
Median: 1.3 hrsMean: 2.7 hrs≥1hr: 60%
Contain is a Tactical Co-Op FPS game. Form your squad of four players to fight against the anomalies. Try to "Contain" them where the line between ordinary and extraordinary is blurred.
Why similar: Military 16%, FPS 15%, Team-Based 14.3%, PvE 9.7%, Shooter 8.7%
- #46 Six Days in Fallujah
68% matchMostly Positive79% of 16,398 reviews2023
Dev: Highwire GamesPub: Victura
Windows
Median: 3.2 hrsMean: 9.3 hrs≥1hr: 78%
Six Days in Fallujah is an intensely realistic first-person tactical shooter based on true stories from one of this century’s toughest urban battles.
Why similar: Military 18.3%, War 13.7%, Team-Based 13.3%, FPS 11.6%, Tactical 8.1%
- #47 81 Days And Nights
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: AnomalyVN Studio
Windows
Step into the boots of a Vietnamese soldier during the brutal 1972 Battle of Quang Tri. 81 Days and Nights is a gritty single player FPS where every bullet counts , hold the line against overwhelming odds, and fight your way through one of history's most grueling sieges
Why similar: Military 19.9%, FPS 19.6%, War 16.4%, Shooter 13.3%, First-Person 7.3%
- #48 Black Squad
68% matchMostly Positive76% of 81,527 reviews2019
Dev: VALOFE
Windows
Median: 1.8 hrsMean: 36.1 hrs≥1hr: 62%
Black Squad is a free-to-play military first-person-shooter. Players can master their skills and show off their strategies with a wide range of game maps, modes, and weapons to choose from. Join thousands of FPS players worldwide in one of the most played games on Steam!
Why similar: FPS 25%, Military 15.7%, Shooter 14.1%, War 9.9%, Team-Based 9.2%
- #49 Operation: Harsh Doorstop
67% matchMostly Positive77% of 20,639 reviews2023
Dev: Drakeling Labs
Windows
Median: 48 minMean: 5.7 hrs≥1hr: 45%
Operation: Harsh Doorstop is the ultimate, free to play, tactical shooter sandbox. Play singleplayer, multiplayer, or co-op modes and explore thousands of community-created maps, weapons, and vehicles via the Steam Workshop. Created by developers of the cancelled Project Reality 2 project.
Why similar: Military 26.3%, FPS 16.3%, War 14.5%, Tactical 9.1%, Realistic 9%
- #50 Secret Missions
67% match2 user reviews100% of 2 reviews2024
Dev: Alessandro CristofferPub: Light Games
Windows
We developed this game to test your competitiveness and your skills. If you want to try new challenges, play War Town.
Why similar: Military 18.4%, War 16.8%, FPS 16.1%, Shooter 10.8%, PvE 8.6%
- #51 Battlefield™ REDSEC
66% matchMixed44% of 16,525 reviews2025
Dev: Battlefield StudiosPub: Electronic Arts
Windows
Now entering REDSEC, the ultimate free-to-play FPS destination built on Battlefield’s iconic DNA. Featuring Battle Royale, Gauntlet, & the power of Portal.
Why similar: Military 22%, War 18.4%, FPS 16.4%, Modern 10.6%, Shooter 9.1%
- #52 Infantry Attack
66% matchPositive88% of 41 reviews2024
Dev: VOODOOPub: QubicGames
Windows
Soldier! War is coming and duty calls! Enemies are invading our country and we need YOU to defend it!
Why similar: War 25.2%, PvE 17.1%, Military 16.7%, Shooter 13.5%, First-Person 7.2%
- #53 Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® II
67% matchMixed46% of 28,603 reviews2022
Dev: Infinity WardPub: Activision
Windows
Median: 4.9 hrsMean: 18.9 hrs≥1hr: 74%
Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® II drops players into an unprecedented global conflict that features the iconic Operators of Task Force 141.
Why similar: FPS 17.5%, Military 17.3%, War 11.9%, Shooter 10.2%, Modern 8.5%