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Games Like Marble Idle Collectionist

60+ similar titles based on shared tags and player behavior. Themes include Casual, Incremental, Idler, Relaxing.

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  1. #1 Popotions
    97% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: NiNauk
    Windows

    Popotions is a relaxing incremental game about throwing explosive potions. Discover new potions, upgrade them and progress by defeating enemies.

    Why similar: Idler 23.5%, Incremental 21.6%, Casual 12.4%, Simulation 9.3%, Minimalist 9.3%

  2. #2 BIT-HOLE: Neon Incremental
    96% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Rift Interactive
    Windows

    BIT HOLE: NEON Incremental is a compact, straightforward incremental experience. Eliminate viruses, collect data fragments, and unlock massive power spikes by decrypting legendary malware like the "I Love You" worm. A focused cyber-power trip designed for a short, satisfying session.

    Why similar: Idler 29.6%, Incremental 20.8%, Casual 11.6%, Minimalist 7.3%, Economy 7.2%

  3. #3 Keep Cutting
    96% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: devug
    Windows

    A short and satisfying incremental game about cutting endless grass and buying upgrades to clear more.

    Why similar: Incremental 22.7%, Idler 20.4%, Casual 9.1%, Minimalist 8.4%, Simulation 6.5%

  4. #4 Click Build Repeat
    95% matchMostly Positive74% of 19 reviews2026
    Dev: Don Pachi
    Windows

    Click Build Repeat is an incremental game about building and collecting model kits.

    Why similar: Idler 26%, Incremental 24.8%, Economy 11.4%, Management 8.2%, Casual 8.1%

  5. #5 Potato Dominion Clicker
    94% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: LoopCraft Games
    Windows

    Create and expand a massive potato empire, click to earn, unlock upgrades, trigger powerful boosts, and dominate with endless progression.

    Why similar: Idler 27.6%, Incremental 21.2%, Simulation 11%, Casual 10.1%, Economy 10%

  6. #6 Pibcremental
    93% matchVery Positive86% of 364 reviews2026
    Dev: Arcane CabinetPub: GrabTheGames
    Windows
    Median: 5.5 hrsMean: 8.2 hrs≥1hr: 85%

    A cozy, chaotic idle-incremental clicker about growing a civilisation of tiny creatures called Pibbles in a giant tree, set in a post-human world.

    Why similar: Idler 26.1%, Incremental 21.2%, Economy 9.8%, Simulation 9.4%, Casual 7.3%

  7. #7 Spin Power
    94% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Tasty Colosseum
    Windows

    A short incremental building game where everything functions with your Spin Power. Build structures, mine resources, unlock new lands, upgrade yourself inside the big skill tree, automate resource mining to increase your income and awake the mysterious water tank from eternal slumber!

    Why similar: Idler 24.9%, Incremental 22.8%, Casual 12.3%, Economy 9.5%, Minimalist 7.1%

  8. #8 Clickstead
    92% matchNo user reviews86% of 7 reviews2026
    Dev: Zettik
    Windows

    A short incremental game about harvesting trees using elements like Fire and Lightning to your advantage. Build your skill tree and rise from Seed to legend.

    Why similar: Idler 34.2%, Incremental 24%, Casual 13.4%, Resource Management 7%, Management 6.9%

  9. #9 Rushcremental
    91% matchVery Positive97% of 67 reviews2026
    Dev: Tim BeaudetPub: Tyre Bytes LLC
    Windows · Mac · Linux

    An active incremental game about searching for scraps and drag racing to rule over all the territories in the wasteland.

    Why similar: Idler 24.2%, Incremental 22.8%, Casual 12.5%, Economy 10%, Simulation 9.2%

  10. #10 Scratchers
    91% matchMixed58% of 590 reviews2025
    Dev: muffler
    Windows
    Median: 2.0 hrsMean: 3.5 hrs≥1hr: 87%

    Scratchers is an incremental game where you scratch cards to earn cash, unlock upgrades, and hire little scratchers to do the scratching for you. Discover rare cards, and optimize your earnings as you climb to scratcher supremacy!

    Why similar: Incremental 27.5%, Idler 23.4%, Casual 11.9%, Simulation 10.9%, Management 8.8%

  11. #11 Decrypting Life
    90% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Lazarus
    Windows

    Decrypting Life is a short, nostalgic incremental game where you restore corrupted files to uncover a story from the 2000s

    Why similar: Idler 28.7%, Incremental 25.9%, Simulation 10.9%, Casual 10.4%, Minimalist 7.3%

  12. #12 Egg-cremental
    89% match1 user reviews0% of 1 reviews2026
    Dev: Lucuxis
    Windows

    Chickens lay, eggs fall, profits multiply! In this addictive first-person incremental tycoon game, toss eggs into a mysterious, bottomless pit to earn cold hard cash. Spend your riches to unlock an expansive tech tree, upgrade your poultry production, and build your ultimate egg empire!

    Why similar: Incremental 26.8%, Idler 22.3%, Simulation 10%, Casual 9.5%, Economy 9.2%

  13. #13 Orbosis Gloriosis
    89% match6 user reviews67% of 6 reviews2026
    Dev: russpuppy
    Windows · Mac

    A physics-based incremental game where you split and merge orbs

    Why similar: Incremental 25.3%, Idler 19.4%, Casual 14.3%, Simulation 13.5%, Minimalist 7%

  14. #14 Particle Collectotron
    87% matchNo user reviews2027
    Dev: Miorama Games
    Windows

    Click and collect energy in this short, active incremental. Upgrade your reactor, tune injector payload and trajectories, unlock exotic matter, and push the experiment past its limits.

    Why similar: Idler 24.9%, Incremental 23.6%, Casual 9.6%, Simulation 8.1%, Management 7.5%

  15. #15 Click and Conquer
    88% matchVery Positive93% of 2,495 reviews2025
    Dev: SOCKHOUSE STUDIOS
    Windows · Mac · Linux
    Median: 2.4 hrsMean: 3.9 hrs≥1hr: 91%

    Click and Conquer is a short, relaxing incremental game. Drop bombs through the fog of war, uncover hidden enemies, collect rewards, and spend currency to boost passive income, increase bombing power, and unlock new maps.

    Why similar: Incremental 28.1%, Idler 22.3%, Economy 9.6%, Minimalist 9.5%, Simulation 8.4%

  16. #16 Y2K Coin Pusher
    86% matchMostly Positive72% of 29 reviews2026
    Dev: Ink Ribbon Studios
    Windows

    Enjoy this 2000's inspired coin pusher game with 13 unlockable levels, each corresponding to their own song and vibe, all in delicious PS2 inspired graphics.

    Why similar: Idler 29.6%, Incremental 24%, Simulation 17.6%, Casual 17.3%, 3D 6%

  17. #17 Black Hole: Farmageddon
    86% matchMixed61% of 31 reviews2026
    Dev: Obys Byte Games
    Windows

    A short, chaotic incremental game about growing your black hole as you chase panicked animals across levels with janky physics. Catch them, stack incremental upgrades, and dive into fast runs that always tempt ‘just one more’.

    Why similar: Idler 25.7%, Incremental 24%, Casual 12.9%, Economy 8.2%, Simulation 6.5%

  18. #18 Incremental Fishing
    84% matchVery Positive96% of 55 reviews2026
    Dev: SwimDog Studio
    Windows

    A short incremental relaxing game about fishing across diverse ocean biomes and upgrading your ship.

    Why similar: Idler 24.2%, Incremental 22.8%, Casual 13.1%, Economy 8.5%, Minimalist 8.1%

  19. #19 LaVonne's Bouncing Idle
    84% matchMixed55% of 22 reviews2026
    Dev: LaVonne
    Windows

    A satisfying physics-based idle game where you deploy an army of neon bouncing balls to obliterate geometric blocks. Buy crazy upgraded balls, level up your lab, and watch the numbers scale into infinity.

    Why similar: Idler 27.5%, Incremental 25.9%, Simulation 17.3%, Casual 16.8%, Physics 7.3%

  20. #20 Smashing Bottles
    82% matchVery Positive85% of 111 reviews2026
    Dev: Blue Makes Games
    Windows · Mac · Linux

    Smashing Bottles is a short and satisfying incremental game where you break bottles to earn money, upgrade your bat, discover new bottles, and cause chaos! Will you smash enough bottles to buy the universe?

    Why similar: Idler 26%, Incremental 24.7%, Economy 13.6%, Simulation 7.9%, Casual 7.6%

  21. #21 EraClicker
    85% matchMixed64% of 14 reviews2025
    Dev: Reard Studio
    Windows

    Incremental game where you travel through time, starting in the Paleolithic and advancing through different eras!

    Why similar: Idler 28.8%, Incremental 28%, Casual 12.1%, Economy 10.4%, Management 7.3%

  22. #22 A Game About Eating The Universe
    83% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: Raven Productions
    Windows

    'A game about eating the universe' is a short, satisfying incremental game. grow a black hole by destroying planets.

    Why similar: Incremental 22.5%, Idler 22.3%, Casual 11.3%, Simulation 8.5%, Economy 8.1%

  23. #23 Saba Clicker
    82% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: Anonymous
    Windows

    Why similar: Idler 30.8%, Incremental 30.3%, Casual 11.9%, Simulation 10.2%, Management 6.7%

  24. #24 Click Click Chicken
    81% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: GreenSquid Studios
    Windows · Linux

    A short incremental game about catching chickens, pigs, cows and sheep.

    Why similar: Incremental 28%, Idler 21.9%, Casual 15.5%, Simulation 7.1%, Relaxing 7.1%

  25. #25 A Game About Making Numbers Go Up
    80% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2026
    Dev: Bob Cat Games
    Windows

    A Game About Making Numbers Go Up? It's Exactly That! Click, hover or idle through this short incremental as you make those numbers go up!

    Why similar: Idler 25.5%, Incremental 23.7%, Casual 14.5%, Economy 13.6%, Management 7.4%

  26. #26 I Can't Stop Touching Balls: Clicker
    81% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: Slightly Concerning
    Windows

    Are you an addicted ball toucher? After launching this game, you definitely ARE! Luckily for you, we have a huge variety of balls, and every one of them can be touched. Need to touch something else? Don't worry! Our automatic ball touchers will happily do the job for you while you're away.

    Why similar: Idler 26.9%, Incremental 26.1%, Casual 11.2%, Economy 9.8%, Simulation 8.7%

  27. #27 Asciinsion
    79% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: omnipolar studio
    Windows · Mac · Linux

    Immerse yourself in the world of ASCII art. Create works of art from characters. Build factories, upgrade them, and expand your production capacity. Invest in blueprints and reach milestones to earn bonuses. Use the ascension system for additional benefits.

    Why similar: Idler 26.7%, Incremental 24.9%, Casual 15.2%, Minimalist 10%, Economy 8.4%

  28. #28 A Game About Feeding A Black Hole
    79% matchVery Positive88% of 3,544 reviews2025
    Dev: AarimousPub: Aarimous and Thornity
    Windows · Mac · Linux
    Median: 3.8 hrsMean: 4.5 hrs≥1hr: 93%

    A short incremental game about feeding a Black Hole matter by destroying Asteroids, Planets, and Stars.

    Why similar: Incremental 37.9%, Idler 18.5%, Casual 8.5%, Minimalist 7%, Simulation 6%

  29. #29 Bingo Bingle
    78% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: carllacan
    Windows · Linux

    Spin your way to fortune by cranking a bingo drum and building powerful combinations of balls and cards.

    Why similar: Idler 26.7%, Incremental 26.4%, Economy 14.3%, Simulation 10%, Casual 9.2%

  30. #30 PETRIVORE
    78% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Tiny Badger
    Windows

    An incremental game that grow a speck into a huge, mutant beast. Pop food in a petri dish, feed your pet, and choose mutations that visibly changes its body. Each play is an evolution into a different pet.

    Why similar: Incremental 28.5%, Idler 24.1%, Casual 12.7%, Minimalist 7.7%, Simulation 6.7%

  31. #31 Beyond the Belt
    77% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: Team Jape
    Windows

    Collect and spend gems in this sci-fi/space themed incremental/idle game. Recruit and upgrade harvester ships and abilities to gather them faster and faster.

    Why similar: Idler 33.2%, Incremental 25%, Simulation 11.3%, Casual 11.2%, Management 10.3%

  32. #32 Cult of the Yellow King
    77% matchVery Positive81% of 130 reviews2025
    Dev: Metaphor Games
    Windows

    A cosmic horror idle game where you build the Yellow King’s cult, spread his living mold, and click yourself hollow. Memory by memory. Scream by silent scream, as the sky blooms with eyes watching your beautiful undoing.

    Why similar: Idler 25.5%, Incremental 22.7%, Casual 8.3%, Minimalist 8.1%, Simulation 7.5%

  33. #33 呱唧大陆(IdleLands)
    76% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: Charon
    Windows

    Looks like work. Plays like an idle game. Build a company or equip a scavenging squad in two idle worlds with office-style web interfaces. Manage staff, orders and cash flow, or prepare for loot runs and extraction. One account for Steam and web. Internet required.

    Why similar: Idler 31.8%, Incremental 25%, Economy 14.5%, Management 10.1%, Resource Management 8.2%

  34. #34 Everybody Loves a Good Hole
    76% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Roovel Studio
    Windows

    Everybody Loves a Good Hole is a short, satisfying incremental about steering a black hole and swallowing everything in sight. Devour colorful cubes for XP and coins, grow bigger, and pour it all into a deep upgrade tree. Bigger cubes, wilder chaos, just one more run.

    Why similar: Incremental 25.6%, Idler 25.2%, Economy 9.1%, Casual 8.4%, Minimalist 6.3%

  35. #35 Incremental Mass Rewritten
    75% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Oni Gaming
    Windows

    Watch your mass skyrocket! Incremental Mass Rewritten lets you upgrade, prestige, and unlock cosmic layers of growth. From tiny beginnings to multiverse-scale numbers, it's perfect for anyone who loves exponential progression and optimizing every step of the journey.

    Why similar: Idler 37.2%, Incremental 27.9%, Simulation 9.6%, Casual 9.2%, Minimalist 7.9%

  36. #36 Voxel Breakers
    75% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: LedenevTV
    Windows

    Voxel Breakers - a relaxing incremental game where you break voxels, buy and upgrade breaker robots, then watch them break voxels for you faster and faster.

    Why similar: Idler 27.4%, Incremental 25.2%, Simulation 10.6%, Economy 10.3%, Casual 7.8%

  37. #37 Click Flip
    74% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Post Jaded Games
    Windows

    Click Flip is a short incremental game about clicking tiles, earning points, buying upgrades, and causing crazy tile combos.

    Why similar: Idler 25.4%, Incremental 24.8%, Economy 13.8%, Management 8.6%, Simulation 7.3%

  38. #38 你的小鸡鸡
    74% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: hUoFaNPub: weewee
    Windows

    "Your Little Chick" is a casual desktop game that accompanies you. Your little Chick will move around the screen following your mouse.

    Why similar: Idler 30.5%, Incremental 28.9%, Simulation 20.1%, Casual 19.6%, Singleplayer 1%

  39. #39 Monslice
    73% match8 user reviews50% of 8 reviews2026
    Dev: zowlf
    Windows

    Monslice is a short incremental game about slicing monsters, collecting resources, expanding your skill tree, and unlocking and buying more monsters!

    Why similar: Incremental 26.9%, Idler 26.8%, Casual 11.2%, Economy 11.1%, Management 6.9%

  40. #40 Coin Fall
    73% matchNo user reviews2027
    Dev: devGator
    Windows · Mac

    Coin Fall is a short coin pusher incremental game. Every coin helps you unlock new pushers and chase jackpots. Discover special coins and trigger bonus mini-games, all in pursuit of the ultimate ticket prize!

    Why similar: Idler 22.8%, Incremental 22.2%, Economy 10.9%, Simulation 10.2%, Casual 8.7%

  41. #41 Cascadium
    73% matchMostly Positive76% of 17 reviews2026
    Dev: ABoxWithinABox
    Windows

    A simple idle game where you drop balls plinko-style to make money. Big number make head go brrrr.

    Why similar: Idler 33%, Incremental 33%, Casual 13.1%, Simulation 13%, Relaxing 6.4%

  42. #42 H.A.M. – Hamster Automated Mining
    72% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: BadElephant Studio
    Windows

    An idle clicker-management hybrid: Exploit your hamsters (yes, humanely, of course) to mine Bitecoins for you. But watch out — they have needs. SO send them to the spa or get some burgers at the inbuild diner and don’t let them unionize!

    Why similar: Idler 35.4%, Incremental 26.3%, Economy 13.5%, Casual 12.8%, Management 10.8%

  43. #43 SUPERBOLT
    70% matchNo user reviews100% of 21 reviews2026
    Dev: Skollheim
    Windows

    You are the lightning. Charge a dying machine, crack it open, and grow from a centimetre-wide spark into the brightest event in the universe. An incremental across seven worlds of scale, where every collapse makes you stronger.

    Why similar: Idler 27.3%, Incremental 21.9%, Simulation 14.5%, Casual 13.8%, Minimalist 8.6%

  44. #44 AutoShowRoom
    71% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: haiooohai
    Windows

    AutoShowRoom is a small relaxing incremental game about managing your own car showroom! Collect +100 unique cars from 10 different countries! Tune them to perfection and showcase them in thrilling events! Unlock new models and expand your collection! Build the ulitimate car showroom!

    Why similar: Idler 28.5%, Incremental 21.9%, Economy 10.4%, Casual 9.5%, Management 8.6%

  45. #45 That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Tyrant God
    70% matchMixed63% of 43 reviews2026
    Dev: Tyrant
    Windows · Mac · Linux

    Slay waves of monsters with your mouse, collect coins, buy permanent upgrades, and grow stronger round after round in a compact incremental action game.

    Why similar: Incremental 24.5%, Idler 22.6%, Casual 11.7%, Minimalist 7.5%, Simulation 7.5%

  46. #46 Coin Jar
    71% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: Justin Allen
    Windows · Mac

    A physics-based incremental game where you drop coins into a jar and merge them to earn money. Use that money to upgrade your coins and manage ventures that passively earn money and unlock new things to do.

    Why similar: Idler 27.9%, Incremental 26.3%, Minimalist 9.8%, Simulation 7.8%, Physics 7.8%

  47. #47 Galaxy Cadet
    70% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2026
    Dev: Morrowglass Games
    Windows

    Sci-fi action incremental where you land on dangerous planets, hunt alien creatures, mine rare ores, and extract what you can before supplies run out. Sell your haul, upgrade your gear, and come back stronger in a constant loop of risk, profit, and growth.

    Why similar: Idler 24.4%, Incremental 16.4%, Casual 14.7%, Management 11.7%, Economy 9.4%

  48. #48 Imberite Idle
    69% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2026
    Dev: Chnappi
    Windows

    Open chests, collect rare structures, and optimize your build to maximize production in this steampunk idle incremental game.

    Why similar: Idler 25.5%, Incremental 21.1%, Casual 10.2%, Simulation 8.1%, Management 6.7%

  49. #49 Grind 'Em All
    69% match8 user reviews75% of 8 reviews2026
    Dev: wasabiman
    Windows

    Grind 'em all! Experience the ultimate satisfaction of shredding monsters and growing stronger in this intense incremental game.

    Why similar: Incremental 28.4%, Idler 23.9%, Casual 9.3%, Simulation 7.5%, Relaxing 6.8%

  50. #50 Clownless
    69% matchNo user reviews
    Dev: ShotDash
    Windows

    Rebuild the Carnival Planet by growing a tiny circus into an intergalactic spectacle. Hire bizarre performers and generate absurd amounts of Happiness and cosmic wealth.

    Why similar: Idler 29.8%, Incremental 22.8%, Economy 14.3%, Casual 8.9%, Management 8.8%

  51. #51 No More Turtles
    68% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: JunkDrawerDev
    Windows

    No More Turtles is a plastic-producing incremental game. Start cranking grandpa's machine, loot abandoned warehouses, and pollute your way to saving a world overrun by turtles!

    Why similar: Incremental 25.3%, Idler 21.8%, Casual 11%, Simulation 9.6%, Economy 9.3%

  52. #52 Falling Sand Idle
    72% matchMostly Negative30% of 10 reviews2025
    Dev: Vegetablebread Games
    Windows

    Part incremental game, part art project. You buy upgrades which alter the hypnotic progression of the circles in the simulation. It's kind of a screen saver that you progress through. The whole process is only a few hours.

    Why similar: Idler 34%, Incremental 23.8%, Casual 13.4%, Minimalist 8.8%, Physics 7.5%

  53. #53 AI Clicker
    68% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: Afk Pixel Studio
    Windows

    Click Your Way to World Domination (Or Doom)! Welcome to AI Clicker, the only game where mindless clicking actually makes you smarter… or creates a future where AI replaces you!

    Why similar: Idler 27.5%, Incremental 26.8%, Casual 11.5%, Economy 10.7%, Management 8.5%

  54. #54 A Game About Bouncing DVD
    67% matchMostly Negative25% of 16 reviews2026
    Dev: Gamific
    Windows

    A minimalist incremental game where you watch DVD logos bounce endlessly, earn points, upgrade your screen, and unlock increasingly powerful upgrades.

    Why similar: Incremental 26.2%, Idler 21.2%, Casual 14.3%, Simulation 11.3%, Minimalist 6.8%

  55. #55 Auto Snakes in Outer Space
    68% matchMostly Positive72% of 102 reviews2026
    Dev: Old Atlas
    Windows

    A slow and meditative incremental idler where you manage colorful snakes. Watch them collect food, then spend the food on upgrades and abilities for your colony.

    Why similar: Idler 36.8%, Incremental 29.9%, Casual 9.9%, Economy 7.3%, Relaxing 5.5%

  56. #56 Flowers to Honey
    67% matchNo user reviews2026
    Dev: ThinKING Cat Games
    Windows

    A cozy incremental where you choose how your bees evolve, plant flowers, guide your hive, and grow a thriving honey empire.

    Why similar: Idler 25.8%, Incremental 20.9%, Economy 10%, Casual 7.2%, Management 7%

  57. #57 Toilet Paper Idle
    66% matchMixed56% of 25 reviews2026
    Dev: CHIZ
    Windows

    Toilet Paper Idle is an incremental game about consuming as much toilet papers as possible with the help of helpers, skills, and upgrades. Discover special types of toilet papers as you progress, and be careful to not clog your toilet!

    Why similar: Idler 39.7%, Incremental 31.5%, Simulation 11.3%, Casual 9%, 3D 3.5%

  58. #58 A game about sucking (up ghosts with a Vacuum)
    67% matchMixed67% of 33 reviews2026
    Dev: Brave Traveller Games
    Windows

    A short, active incremental game about sucking up a range of cute and mischievous Ghosts with a Vacuum and harvesting their Ectoplasm.

    Why similar: Idler 23.6%, Incremental 22.7%, Economy 10%, Minimalist 9.5%, Casual 8.6%

  59. #59 Pickochet
    65% matchMixed69% of 45 reviews2026
    Dev: kronPub: Midware Games
    Windows

    Pickochet is a short, incremental mining game where you mine ore using bouncy ricocheting pickaxes, purchase upgrades, unlock abilities and discover new mining sites.

    Why similar: Idler 26.1%, Incremental 20.9%, Simulation 15.7%, Casual 12.7%, Economy 7.9%

  60. #60 Clickbait Tycoon
    65% match5 user reviews100% of 5 reviews2026
    Dev: FrostyVoid Inc.
    Windows · Mac · Linux

    Build a clickbait media empire in pixel-art 1980s New York. Publish outrageous stories, hire outrage algorithms, battle editors-turned-monsters raise Pocket Pals, and sell out - again and again - until you own the news. And the weather.

    Why similar: Idler 36.4%, Incremental 27.2%, Simulation 14.9%, Casual 12.4%, Management 7.4%

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