- #1 Travel Agency Simulator
97% match8 user reviews100% of 8 reviews2026
Dev: World of Travel
Windows
Build a global travel empire through idle-clicker management, then step inside your agency in an interactive 3D office minigame. Sell and upgrade travel products, hire managers, automate profits, serve customers, customize your office, and prestige for permanent boosts.
Why similar: Capitalism 17.8%, Automation 14.9%, Economy 14.4%, Time Management 8.4%, Incremental 7.9%
- #2 Investor Incremental
96% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Final Offer
Windows
From 0 to Hero investing simulation game. Start as a dead end job worker and work your way to financial freedom. Supports both minmaxing and relaxing playstyles.
Why similar: Capitalism 23.9%, Economy 21.3%, Simulation 11.4%, Automation 8.7%, Incremental 8.6%
- #3 HYPERSCALE
96% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: IBD Collective
Windows
Build infastructure, manage the grid, fight thermal runaway, and keep the community alive. This is a data centre and grid management simulator/idle clicker
Why similar: Capitalism 27.2%, Automation 18.2%, Idler 11.2%, Incremental 9.9%, Management 8.7%
- #4 Critter Bonk
95% matchNo user reviews
Dev: FluffyFishDev
Windows
A cute incremental clicker where you bonk bugs for profit. Earn money, unlock upgrades, acquire powerful skills, and recruit helpers to automate the bonking until you’re truly unstoppable. Satisfying and Relaxing!
Why similar: Capitalism 24.2%, Automation 20.3%, Economy 15.7%, Incremental 10.4%, Idler 9.3%
- #5 Padel Tycoon
94% matchPositive89% of 18 reviews2026
Dev: Santiago Piedras Gonzalez
Windows
Build a padel empire from a single bucket of used balls to the Lunar Major in the world's first padel business game. Buy courts, hire managers to run them and watch the numbers climb across three locations. An idle clicker with 20 businesses, 46 upgrades and an empire that earns while you're away.
Why similar: Capitalism 25.8%, Automation 21.6%, Economy 16.7%, Idler 10.4%, Management 7.7%
- #6 Incremental Pain Profit
92% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Zayndev
Windows
Click, topple and profit! Knock over tiny wandering Humans, hire Animals to cause chaos, collect mountains of coins and grow your ridiculous empire. Unlock powerful Rebirth upgrades, defeat Bosses and turn a peaceful board into a glorious mess of falling people.
Why similar: Capitalism 29.1%, Automation 24.5%, Economy 14.1%, Simulation 6.4%, Idler 6.4%
- #7 Individual Invest Tycoon 2
91% match8 user reviews88% of 8 reviews2026
Dev: chenjd
Windows
A single betrayal shattered your father’s business empire, leaving behind five public companies. Years later, you return from the bottom of the market, building capital through long-term investment. Your ultimate goal is simple: buy out and take full control of all five companies.
Why similar: Capitalism 29.9%, Economy 19.4%, Time Management 9.6%, Management 8.5%, Simulation 8%
- #8 Last $50
91% matchMostly Positive70% of 20 reviews2026
Dev: Adagio Games
Windows
Build a drug empire with your last $50. Buy production, upgrade it, and hire workers to automate.
Why similar: Automation 22.4%, Economy 18.6%, Capitalism 13.7%, Incremental 11%, Idler 8.6%
- #9 Console Shop Simulator
90% matchVery Positive92% of 531 reviews2025
Dev: Lance Games
Windows
Become the owner of a game store! Organize shelves, repair CDs, negotiate profits, promote your store via live stream, and increase customer satisfaction.
Why similar: Capitalism 23.8%, Economy 15.9%, Automation 11.6%, Time Management 9.8%, Management 8%
- #10 From Zero: Idle Factory
89% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Cartoon Rocket Games
Windows
Start with a worn-out workshop and grow through eight increasingly advanced factories. Produce, ship, reinvest and automate with robots in an active incremental management campaign that progresses only while you play.
Why similar: Automation 23.7%, Capitalism 18.5%, Economy 16.7%, Incremental 11.5%, Simulation 10%
- #11 Astra Incrementalia
89% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Studio Deep
Windows
In this short incremental game you're tasked with growing The Company. Purchase planets, unlock specialized space stations, produce millions of resources, and dominate the solar market. How much can you accomplish in a generation?
Why similar: Capitalism 21.5%, Automation 20.6%, Economy 14%, Incremental 9.9%, Idler 9.3%
- #12 TV Network Simulator
88% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Maurizio Caschera
Windows
Build your own TV network, license shows, schedule prime-time slots, hire writers, sign sponsors, and fight for ratings week by week.
Why similar: Capitalism 25%, Economy 18%, Time Management 13.5%, Management 11.5%, Simulation 10.7%
- #13 The Completionist: 1980-1989
87% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Frosty PopPub: Frosty Pop
Windows · Mac · Linux
Run a scrappy pop culture magazine through the 1980s. Hire writers, editors, and researchers. Manage a Kanban board. Prestige through Volumes. Try not to go broke. Strategic idle sim. Commodore 64 aesthetic. No micro-transactions.
Why similar: Capitalism 23.4%, Automation 18.9%, Economy 15.9%, Incremental 8.8%, Idler 8.4%
- #14 Evil overlord Clicker
86% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: MOTZA GAMES
Windows
Evil Overlord Clicker is a fast, satisfying incremental game where you smash endless walls, farm resources, and grow your dark empire. Recruit and upgrade minions, prestige for permanent buffs, and face tougher walls with unique effects.
Why similar: Capitalism 25.9%, Economy 16.6%, Automation 14.7%, Incremental 11.3%, Idler 10%
- #15 Built From Nothing
85% match5 user reviews60% of 5 reviews2026
Dev: Wintergrasped
Windows
Build a business from the ground up. Choose your industry, manage money, equipment, employees, customers, debt, and unexpected disasters. Every decision shapes your reputation, growth, and whether your company becomes an empire—or collapses under its own ambition.
Why similar: Capitalism 17.2%, Automation 14.5%, Simulation 13.6%, Economy 11.1%, Time Management 10.7%
- #16 Factory Outlet Simulator: Prologue
86% matchMostly Positive79% of 461 reviews2024
Dev: PISHO
Windows
Median: 36 minMean: 2.8 hrs≥1hr: 32%
Factory Outlet Simulator is a very comprehensive clothes manufacturing and selling game. You can produce the products of world famous brands in your factory and sell them. Or you can expand your business and create your own brand. Use your business acumen to lead the market from zero to the top!
Why similar: Capitalism 19.5%, Multiplayer 16.3%, Simulation 14.5%, Economy 12%, Resource Management 9.2%
- #17 Chip Crafters
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Nullable Pandas
Windows
Factory Automation game that takes simulation to new heights! Dive into a world where you have the power to turn your small CPU factory into a world-leading factory, becoming a pillar in the global economy.
Why similar: Automation 22.3%, Economy 16.8%, Capitalism 16.7%, Resource Management 9%, Simulation 8%
- #18 IT Outage Desk
84% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Games By Solo
Windows · Mac
Start as a help desk technician and build your way to the top. Resolve tickets, hire staff, automate your department, and survive the increasingly absurd chaos of corporate IT in this humorous incremental clicker.
Why similar: Automation 21.6%, Capitalism 19.8%, Economy 17.8%, Incremental 11.2%, Idler 9.9%
- #19 Piggy Bang
83% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: noblerats
Windows
Piggy Bang is a short and satisfying incremental game where you smash piggy banks to earn coins and gems, upgrade your hammer, and build your fortune. Can you expand your bank-breaking operation just in time to pay rent this month?
Why similar: Capitalism 25.6%, Automation 21.5%, Economy 16.6%, Incremental 11%, Idler 9.8%
- #20 Ticker & Trade
82% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: jamminTheDev LLC
Windows
Ticker & Trade is a multiplayer financial simulator. Trade stocks, options, and bonds on a real-time global order book. Build player corporations, launch mutual funds, react to market-shifting news events, and rise to the top of the leaderboards. Build your stock market empire!
Why similar: Capitalism 35.8%, Multiplayer 17%, Simulation 15.6%, Economy 14.8%, Idler 10.1%
- #21 Keep On Hashing!: Idle Mining Sim
82% match2 user reviews0% of 2 reviews2026
Dev: Velron Games
Windows
Mine blocks. Earn Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin and Solana. Hire 20 helpers who mine while you sleep. Upgrade rigs from USB sticks to quantum machines. Climb a 22-node skill tree. Overclock everything. Prestige and chase the next zero. It never ends — and you won't want it to.
Why similar: Capitalism 18.3%, Automation 15.5%, Economy 14.6%, Simulation 12.1%, Idler 11.9%
- #22 Raccoon Inc.
81% matchNo user reviews2027
Dev: Fatima Makes Games
Windows
Bin Dive is tired of eating from the trash! Help this enterprising raccoon build a business up from flipping junk to a sprawling mega corporation unlike the world has ever seen. Start businesses, upgrade them, hire animals to help you, sit back and watch the money flow in this idler tycoon.
Why similar: Capitalism 29.9%, Automation 19.9%, Economy 18.7%, Simulation 8.7%, Incremental 8.1%
- #23 Pitch & Pixel
80% match7 user reviews86% of 7 reviews2026
Dev: Robert Kolloch
Windows · Linux
Battle through 30 years of digital agency history — optimize sales & marketing, deliver projects, grow your team and outsmart your rivals. Fully simulated market and freely chosen path to success — boutique with quality or agency group? You decide.
Why similar: Capitalism 31.9%, Economy 20.6%, Automation 16.3%, Simulation 12.6%, Management 12.5%
- #24 Corner Cafe Capitalist
81% matchNo user reviews
Dev: AstroDev
Windows · Linux
Master the daily grind in Corner Cafe Capitalist, a business management simulator. Tweak your recipes, set prices, purchase supplies, and hire staff by night, then watch your strategy test the morning rush by day. Can you scale your humble corner cart into a thriving city-wide refreshment empire?
Why similar: Capitalism 29.2%, Economy 26.6%, Simulation 13.8%, Management 11.6%, Resource Management 4.6%
- #25 Paystreak
79% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Northwright Games
Windows
Paystreak is a top-down gold mining tycoon about running your own modern day gold rush. Take over a small claim, start by hand, and reinvest every ounce into machines, crews, and new land. Sell when the price is right and turn a struggling camp into a mining empire.
Why similar: Automation 22.3%, Capitalism 22.1%, Economy 16.1%, Time Management 12.1%, Management 10.3%
- #26 Law Firm Simulator
79% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: dizzy
Windows
Law Firm Simulator is a business management sandbox where you build and run your own legal empire. Hire lawyers, take on clients, manage complex cases, expand your offices, and grow a small practice into the city’s most prestigious law firm.
Why similar: Capitalism 30.1%, Economy 19.3%, Simulation 16.5%, Management 12%, Time Management 9.7%
- #27 Scratch Inc.
78% matchVery Positive91% of 2,193 reviews2025
Dev: Makopaz
Windows · Mac
Build an Empire, From Scratch, in this Scratch Card Idle/Incremental game.
Why similar: Automation 22.6%, Capitalism 20%, Economy 13.1%, Idler 11.8%, Time Management 11%
- #28 HR.SOS
78% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Superior StudioPub: Stargate Games
Windows
The company is falling apart, and you're both the HR cleaning up the mess and the CEO profiting from it. Optimize people, rebuild workflows, automate production, and watch the numbers go up.
Why similar: Economy 16.9%, Time Management 14%, Logic 13.8%, Automation 12%, Idler 10%
- #29 Project manager SIM
76% matchPositive100% of 19 reviews2026
Dev: Escapismogames
Windows
Manage the most unpredictable resource - people - in this WASD tycoon! Plan projects, hire a dream team, assign tasks to specialists, and monitor the budget while upgrading your office. Balance between team burnout, complex contracts, and the wrath of upper management.
Why similar: Capitalism 29.7%, Economy 21.7%, Management 12.7%, Time Management 12.1%, Resource Management 11.2%
- #30 The American Dream: Past Due
77% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Prometheus
Windows
The American Dream: Past Due is a realistic choice-driven sim. Play as a suddenly laid-off middle-aged man keeping up appearances. Balance family finances and emotions while facing mounting bills... Can you get your life back on track before your family falls apart?
Why similar: Capitalism 31.1%, Time Management 12.7%, Economy 11.4%, Immersive Sim 8.4%, Resource Management 8.1%
- #31 Kingdom Inc.
77% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Leaping Turtle
Windows
A minimalist factory / city builder. Design your workflow by harvesting resources, building equipment, outfitting your adventurers, and sending them on dangerous missions. Recover lost territory and unravel the plot that threatens to destroy your kingdom!
Why similar: Automation 25.3%, Capitalism 23.8%, Time Management 10.5%, Incremental 10.2%, Resource Management 9.9%
- #32 Click to Obsolete
76% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Shaked Yarkony
Windows
A satirical incremental clicker game. Play as a corporate tech CEO automating all human labor. Build server infrastructure, allocate compute to AI, manufacture robot armies, and lobby politicians to reduce global employment from 8 billion to zero.
Why similar: Capitalism 23.7%, Automation 19.3%, Economy 14.3%, Incremental 9.1%, Idler 8.5%
- #33 Investment Fund Game
75% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: 57 Software
Windows
Investment Fund Game is a singleplayer sandbox simulation where you become the manager of an investment fund. Buy stocks, bonds, commodities. Test different investment strategies, track your performance, and compete with AI-driven funds using their own approaches.
Why similar: Capitalism 30.2%, Economy 23%, Simulation 15.3%, Management 9.9%, Resource Management 6.8%
- #34 Grey Market
74% match1 user reviews0% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: Carson Games
Windows
A criminal idle tycoon where the market fights back. Every market has real buyers who run out when you flood them and recover when you leave them alone, so where you send product matters as much as how much you make. Build an operation that keeps earning while the game is closed.
Why similar: Capitalism 22.1%, Automation 18.8%, Economy 12.9%, Simulation 12.6%, Idler 11.6%
- #35 Recycling Center Simulator
74% matchVery Positive86% of 2,974 reviews2024
Dev: Balas GamesPub: PlayWay S.A.
Windows
Median: 10.5 hrsMean: 15.9 hrs≥1hr: 89%
Recycling Center Simulator is a business simulator game with a first person view. Make money from garbage, collect raw materials for your recycling center from different locations, recycle them, make money by producing new products and improve your factory.
Why similar: Capitalism 18.5%, Automation 18.1%, Economy 14.6%, Time Management 10.9%, Management 9.3%
- #36 Hedge Fund Manager Simulator MMO
73% match9 user reviews56% of 9 reviews2025
Dev: Hot Soup Games
Windows
Manage a million-dollar hedge fund with real stock prices. Free to play, with performance you can prove and share.
Why similar: Capitalism 28.2%, Economy 17.3%, Management 9.4%, Simulation 8.9%, Choices Matter 7.2%
- #37 Big Ambitions
69% matchVery Positive92% of 14,788 reviews2026
Dev: Hovgaard Games
Windows · Mac
Median: 11.4 hrsMean: 25.9 hrs≥1hr: 87%
Big Ambitions is a revolutionary role-playing business sim. Go from nothing to the biggest entrepreneur in New York by opening small businesses or slowly building huge corporations any way you like.
Why similar: Capitalism 28.3%, Economy 24.3%, Management 15.4%, Simulation 9%, Time Management 7.2%
- #38 Life Sim
73% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Isolated Limted
Windows · Mac · Linux
Life Sim is a text-based life simulation where your choices shape your destiny. Manage careers, control the economy, influence politics, and make decisions that affect the world around you. An immersive experience where every choice matters.
Why similar: Capitalism 22.3%, Economy 18.8%, Automation 15.5%, Management 8.6%, Resource Management 7.4%
- #39 Cinema Simulator 2025
73% matchMostly Positive78% of 599 reviews2025
Dev: HOGO Games
Windows
Median: 3.5 hrsMean: 5.8 hrs≥1hr: 72%
Cinema Simulator 2025 is a simulation game where you will manage your own movie theater and test your strategy and management skills. Starting from a small movie theater, try to become a giant in the movie industry.
Why similar: Capitalism 24.2%, Economy 17%, Time Management 11.6%, Management 8.2%, Immersive Sim 7.8%
- #40 Money Print Factory 3D Tycoon💸
72% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Obese NinjasPub: Broken Clock
Windows
Greetings, our money hungry player. This is a 3D Clicker Tycoon game where your money making adventure begins. Print money, buy & upgrade machines, and expand your factory. Gain more money, and more money, AND MORE MONEY $$$!
Why similar: Capitalism 24.1%, Automation 21.8%, Economy 19.7%, Idler 9.2%, Management 8.9%
- #41 Junkyard Builder
70% matchMostly Positive74% of 258 reviews2026
Dev: FreeMind S.A.
Windows
In Junkyard Builder, you’re the proud owner of a once-forgotten junkyard, now brimming with endless potential. Dive into the satisfying world of restoration, recycling, and raw hustle as you transform trash into treasure and rise to become the ruler of the junk empire!
Why similar: Capitalism 19.5%, Automation 16.6%, Economy 15.1%, Management 9%, Simulation 8.3%
- #42 Idle Tycoon Manufacturing
71% matchPositive94% of 18 reviews2026
Dev: EragonePub: Eragone Games
Windows · Linux
Lead a monster-run industry ! Recruit, upgrade machines, transform ores, and unlock tech. Get rich by mastering strategy and expanding your industrial empire. Ready to conquer the market ?
Why similar: Automation 21.5%, Capitalism 20.7%, Economy 15.3%, Time Management 8.2%, Management 8%
- #43 Trading Simulator
75% matchMostly Positive72% of 18 reviews2023
Dev: metayildizoyun
Windows
Build your financial empire in Trading Simulator by strategically investing in businesses, navigating a dynamic market, and using realistic trading mechanics. Are you ready to turn your financial dreams into reality?
Why similar: Capitalism 37.9%, Economy 22.7%, Management 10.5%, Resource Management 8.9%, Life Sim 6.3%
- #44 Yaarmi Tycoon
72% match2 user reviews50% of 2 reviews2025
Dev: Yago Arribas Miguel
Windows
Start as a small content creator and build your own YouTube empire. Upgrade your PC, produce videos, earn money and grow your channel into a massive content factory.
Why similar: Economy 20.5%, Time Management 11.9%, Automation 11.7%, Simulation 9.9%, Management 9.8%
- #45 Biztopia: Prologue
71% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Lymo Games
Windows
Welcome to Biztopia: Prologue! Step into the city, start with a small order, build your own trading world, and team up with friends or go solo! An extraordinary journey full of business and opportunities awaits you.
Why similar: Capitalism 20.4%, Automation 16.4%, Economy 15.7%, Time Management 8.7%, Management 7.9%
- #46 Laundry & Supermarket Simulator
71% matchVery Positive80% of 100 reviews2025
Dev: SmartPlayGames
Windows
"Laundry Simulator" immerses you in the bustling laundry business. Manage a boutique shop, handling everything from everyday clothes to luxury garments, and sell related products. Efficiently manage resources, upgrade equipment, and optimize layout to attract customers with superior service.
Why similar: Capitalism 23.5%, Automation 14.4%, Economy 14.1%, Time Management 11.4%, Simulation 8.2%
- #47 Sam, We Talked About This
70% matchNo user reviews2027
Dev: Overbaked Studio
Windows · Mac
Every sentence, image and video on the internet will feed Sam's bottomless hunger! Train your models, grow your subscribers, buy new hardware and scrape even more data, all to build a super-duper artificial intelligence and leave every rival behind.
Why similar: Capitalism 25%, Automation 18.3%, Economy 13.8%, Incremental 10.7%, Idler 9.6%
- #48 Investors Paradise
70% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Katzogames
Windows
Build your own financial empire in this business and investment simulation. Trade stocks, rent out properties, invest in start-ups, acquire collectibles at auction, and establish your own company—rising from a small-time investor to the greatest investor in history.
Why similar: Capitalism 28.6%, Economy 22.2%, Management 10.2%, Automation 9.8%, Simulation 8.2%
- #49 President Simulator
69% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Studio 14b
Windows
Become President of the USA: sign absurd decrees and balance your policies to avoid being called a "sellout." Communicate to gain popularity, manage interviews, and face press conferences. Everything falling apart? Press the red button.
Why similar: Capitalism 25.1%, Automation 20.4%, Economy 15.5%, Immersive Sim 9.1%, Management 8.3%
- #50 The Rift Machine
69% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Mechayaan
Windows
The Rift Machine is an incremental game where you extract resources from inter-dimensional anomalies. Build modular defenses, research advanced technology, automate complex systems, and scale your operation into an unstoppable anomaly-harvesting engine.
Why similar: Automation 19.2%, Economy 15.7%, Capitalism 14.7%, Incremental 10.2%, Idler 9.7%
- #51 Epicenter City
68% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: jimmy21
Windows · Mac · Linux
Build a multi-generational tech empire in this cyberpunk life simulator. Found startups, navigate stock markets, and manage your networks to climb the corporate ladder. From surviving disasters to finding love, every choice determines if your lineage becomes a permanent legend on the leaderboard.
Why similar: Capitalism 18.4%, Economy 15.7%, Time Management 9.1%, Immersive Sim 7.7%, Choices Matter 7.2%
- #52 Idle Energy
67% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: Shadow Games Software
Windows
A small game about pushing the world forward, one crank at a time. Sell energy at the Market, build power plants, and climb from a manual workshop through eight eras to star-spanning cosmic civilization. Offline. No microtransactions or ads.
Why similar: Capitalism 19.6%, Automation 16.5%, Idler 13.2%, Economy 12.6%, Incremental 11.7%
- #53 OurClicker
68% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: WaveyGaming Productions
Windows · Mac · Linux
From the creators of OurLife and OurCoven, OurClicker is a brand new clicker game that puts you in charge of an up-and-coming Game Development Studio where all you do is... CLICK!
Why similar: Capitalism 22.6%, Economy 21.7%, Automation 18.8%, Idler 12.8%, Incremental 11.6%
- #54 A Very Simple Idle Game
66% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: NooGames
Windows
Idle game with a twist: reward grows while you wait and resets with each purchase. 6 upgrades, 3 currencies, prestige and super upgrades. Simple but deep.
Why similar: Capitalism 19.4%, Economy 19.2%, Idler 11.8%, Incremental 10.6%, Time Management 9.3%
- #55 Fun Center Simulator
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Born In Garage
Windows
Create your own fun center! Arcades, video games, cinema — it’s all in your hands. Sell snacks&drinks, make popcorn, and delight your visitors. Build the coolest entertainment center around!
Why similar: Capitalism 23.2%, Economy 20.6%, Automation 12.2%, Management 10.5%, Simulation 10.4%
- #56 Laptop Architect
66% match5 user reviews100% of 5 reviews2026
Dev: Anlak
Windows
Design laptops from the PCB up and build a global tech empire! Balance complex heat and power mechanics, manage your corporate budget, and conquer international markets. Do you have what it takes to become the ultimate Laptop Architect?
Why similar: Capitalism 22.9%, Economy 18.5%, Automation 18.3%, Logic 13.7%, Management 8.4%
- #57 Breadbulls
68% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2025
Dev: Pataroro
Windows
Breadbulls is an economy sim arcade game. Play to your personal risk tolerance!
Why similar: Capitalism 20.9%, Automation 16.9%, Economy 14.1%, Time Management 10.8%, Incremental 7.8%
- #58 10k Generators: The Ultimate Idle Game
66% match3 user reviews33% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: PiratePablo
Windows
10k generators, 20+ currencies. Master 5 prestige trees. Convert currencies, earn interest, unlock perks, stack bonuses, research, climb tiers, evolve, and level globally. Auto-buy included. Deep. Strategic. Endless.
Why similar: Automation 19.3%, Capitalism 16%, Economy 14.1%, Idler 11%, Incremental 9.9%