- #1 AI Society
97% matchMixed56% of 16 reviews2026
Dev: b8ve
Windows · Linux
Build your society powered by AI characters. Give your townsfolk unique personalities, hobbies, and traits; then watch them work, argue, form friendships, fight on their own, and more. Cause chaos with your god powers and play mini-games to win legendary artifacts. Runs 100% locally on your machine.
Why similar: Colony Sim 25.8%, City Builder 21.2%, Life Sim 15.3%, Idler 11.5%, Simulation 9.8%
- #2 Paragon Pioneers 2
96% matchVery Positive93% of 57 reviews2024
Dev: Tobias Arlt
Windows · Mac · Linux
Dive into the captivating world of Paragon Pioneers 2, an engaging city-building idle game filled with extensive content promising months of immersive gameplay. Even with limited playtime, you can delve deep into this simulation, experimenting with various strategies to enhance your realm.
Why similar: Colony Sim 29.1%, City Builder 22%, Idler 16.9%, Simulation 7.7%, Stylized 5.9%
- #3 Torp
96% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Goat Head Studios
Windows · Linux
Torp is a viking age colony simulator where you guide a group of norsemen in their quest to build a peaceful and thriving settlement.
Why similar: Colony Sim 29.5%, City Builder 24.3%, Life Sim 15.8%, Simulation 11.5%, Immersive Sim 9.2%
- #4 Bonfires of Azure
95% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Pixel Cloud
Windows
Embark on a cozy journey to settle and thrive on floating islands in the remnants of a ruptured world. Grow your village, manage resources, and become the renowned pioneer of the clouds. A relaxing city-building experience where you build and optimize your serene sanctuary in the skies.
Why similar: Colony Sim 32.1%, City Builder 25.3%, Idler 20.6%, Top-Down 7.2%, Economy 4.3%
- #5 Hexagge
94% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Technical Khaos
Windows
A group of travelers has left their home and is trying to restart their lives in a new land. They don't have much but they are determined to thrive. However, an invisible force seems to be guiding them. Will this force help guide them to success or doom them?
Why similar: Colony Sim 33.5%, City Builder 27.6%, Simulation 13.2%, Stylized 6%, Top-Down 5.8%
- #6 Little Renters
94% matchNo user reviews2025
Dev: JnB
Windows
Take on the challenge of managing these Little Renters and their needs. Keep them happy with the right decoration and set your rent prices to maximize profits! Stay alert as Thieves, Squatters, Fires, Sick Renters and Broken Decorations can cause you to Fail!
Why similar: Colony Sim 28.5%, City Builder 22.6%, Idler 18.2%, Life Sim 14.9%, Economy 5.7%
- #7 Paragon Pioneers
93% matchVery Positive89% of 56 reviews2022
Dev: Tobias Arlt
Windows · Mac · Linux
Paragon Pioneers is a city-building idle game in which you discover, conquer and then build on islands to fulfill the needs of your inhabitants. Even with limited time to play you can enjoy this deep simulation game and follow one of the countless ways to optimize your empire.
Why similar: Colony Sim 29.8%, City Builder 22.7%, Idler 18.7%, Medieval 5.2%, Economy 5.1%
- #8 NOVA ATLANTIS
92% matchNo user reviews2025
Dev: Silvio Reis
Windows
The ultimate management challenge: rebuild the lost utopia of Atlantis after its fall. Restore essential services, appease the gods, and forge a new Atlantean civilization stronger and more resilient than ever, ensuring the cataclysm never returns.
Why similar: Colony Sim 39.6%, City Builder 33.1%, Simulation 16.8%, Fantasy 5.3%, 3D 5.1%
- #9 Amusement Park Simulator
91% matchPositive89% of 35 reviews2024
Dev: SlosGames
Windows
This is a simulation-tycoon game for making your dream park.You can purchase , sell and move all of the machines and visual items.While you do these things costumers comes and experience all of this.Sometimes they wanna eat , watch and enjoy on machines.Becareful if they buy a ticket !
Why similar: City Builder 31.2%, Life Sim 26.3%, Immersive Sim 16.5%, Simulation 10.6%, Stylized 8.1%
- #10 Dream Park Story
91% matchVery Positive89% of 157 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Create your own amusement park with a variety of rides, mascots, and activities!
Why similar: Colony Sim 35.5%, City Builder 20%, Life Sim 18.9%, Simulation 14.9%, Casual 7.3%
- #11 Desktop Town
90% matchPositive95% of 20 reviews2025
Dev: EdelErde
Windows
Desktop Town is a relaxing idle city builder that runs directly on your desktop. Build and decorate your own tiny town, or watch your little citizens go about their day, while doing your usual tasks on the PC.
Why similar: Colony Sim 27.1%, City Builder 24.3%, Idler 23%, Simulation 5.7%, Relaxing 4.9%
- #12 The Pyraplex
89% matchVery Positive98% of 60 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
A pyramid-building adventure of historic proportions!
Why similar: Colony Sim 31.5%, City Builder 22%, Life Sim 19.2%, Historical 11%, Simulation 8%
- #13 A Game of Humans
89% matchMixed66% of 73 reviews2020
Dev: Scion Studios
Windows
A sandbox village simulation fundamentally about people, their thoughts and their needs. Luckily they are not alone in their burden, for you possess divine powers. And you would surely never add to the plight of the common man... Right?
Why similar: Colony Sim 29.3%, City Builder 24.3%, Life Sim 15.9%, Immersive Sim 7.1%, Simulation 5.4%
- #14 My Colony
88% matchVery Positive90% of 265 reviews2018
Dev: Ape Apps
Windows · Mac · Linux
Build, expand, and rule a growing space colony. Explore tech, trade, and multiplayer.
Why similar: Colony Sim 48%, City Builder 42.4%, Simulation 9.5%
- #15 Medieval Castle Simulator
86% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Outerlynx
Windows
Run your own castle, trade goods, set prices, hire villagers, and expand your market into a thriving medieval empire. Customize your layout, keep order, and secure your prosperity… or lose it all.
Why similar: City Builder 30.9%, Life Sim 23.1%, Simulation 14.6%, Immersive Sim 12.3%, Casual 8.9%
- #16 Banished
87% matchVery Positive90% of 43,119 reviews2014
Dev: Shining Rock Software LLC
Windows
Median: 7.8 hrsMean: 27.0 hrs≥1hr: 78%
In this city-building strategy game, you control a group of exiled travelers who decide to restart their lives in a new land. They have only the clothes on their backs and a cart filled with supplies from their homeland. The townspeople of Banished are your primary resource.
Why similar: Colony Sim 44.9%, City Builder 37.6%, Simulation 7.5%, Medieval 3.5%, Relaxing 2.4%
- #17 Alnico Smithery
86% matchVery Positive87% of 98 reviews2024
Dev: Pinapl
Windows
Alnico Smithery is a hand-drawn, physics-based forging simulator. Mine for ore, smelt ingots, discover alloys, forge tools, and rebuild the smithery your grandfather left behind.
Why similar: Life Sim 20.7%, Idler 18.4%, Immersive Sim 12.6%, Historical 8.3%, Simulation 8.1%
- #18 Spirit & Stone
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Garden Gate Interactive, LLC
Windows
A kingdom's open ended journey from a small village to a patchwork of bustling castles. Build your kingdom block by block. Explore the world, grow your industries, and watch your citizens thrive in your creations. Do it your way - there are no wrong choices.
Why similar: Colony Sim 34.7%, City Builder 28.7%, Simulation 14.6%, Immersive Sim 11.7%, 3D 3.5%
- #19 Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt
85% matchMostly Positive71% of 1,364 reviews2019
Dev: HandyGames
Windows
Median: 6.3 hrsMean: 14.5 hrs≥1hr: 87%
Townsmen – A Kingdom Rebuilt hands the crown to you: Guide your people from their first steps in a small village to a massive medieval metropolis with thousands of inhabitants.
Why similar: Colony Sim 45%, City Builder 26.2%, Simulation 13.2%, Casual 6.7%, Medieval 4.7%
- #20 Celestial Trails
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Universal Games
Windows
You arrive on a barren island seeking a fresh start. Gather resources, farm, fish, and craft to build a thriving society. Unlock advanced technologies, manage resources, and grow your settlement from humble beginnings to exploring the stars.
Why similar: Colony Sim 35.9%, City Builder 29.7%, Life Sim 19%, Casual 8.1%, Simulation 4.2%
- #21 Hotel Manager: Together
83% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Vespertine Game
Windows
Build your own hotel empire from scratch! Welcome guests, prepare rooms, hire staff, and transform a small motel into a five-star luxury resort. Can you keep your guests happy and reach the top in this fast-paced time management game ?
Why similar: City Builder 22.8%, Idler 16.5%, Immersive Sim 11.5%, Life Sim 10.8%, Simulation 10.4%
- #22 Zoo Park Story
82% matchVery Positive89% of 114 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Well, what are you waiting for? Build a top-ranking zoo, set social media ablaze, and show the world your wild side!
Why similar: Colony Sim 34.6%, City Builder 23.5%, Life Sim 18%, Simulation 9.5%, Top-Down 6.3%
- #23 dEskape
81% matchMixed59% of 87 reviews2023
Dev: The Evergloom Team
Windows
'dEskape' is a base-building game which sits across the bottom of your desktop allowing you to work, browse, or watch something else while you play. It's idle when you like and active when you want.
Why similar: Colony Sim 28.7%, City Builder 22.7%, Idler 18.2%, Life Sim 14.4%, Simulation 4.9%
- #24 Town's Stranger
81% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Punky Duck
Windows
In Town's Stranger we have to discover the mysterious events that caught our attention in the town. This may not be as cute a town as it seems, so we have to be careful and we can grow organic produces, open restaurant and earn money to make a living.
Why similar: City Builder 26%, Life Sim 17.8%, Idler 15.1%, Immersive Sim 15%, Simulation 7.8%
- #25 Trading Towns
79% matchMixed65% of 20 reviews2024
Dev: Eternal Games
Windows
Trading Towns is a simple and relaxing economic game in which your goal is to find ways for your town to become wealthy and prosperous.
Why similar: Colony Sim 31.3%, City Builder 23.4%, Idler 19.3%, Economy 6.8%, Medieval 5.6%
- #26 Dawn of Man
80% matchVery Positive87% of 17,712 reviews2019
Dev: Madruga Works
Windows · Mac
Median: 10.9 hrsMean: 30.0 hrs≥1hr: 86%
Command a settlement of ancient humans, guide them through the ages in their struggle for survival. Hunt, gather, craft tools, fight, research new techs and face the challenges the environment will throw at you.
Why similar: Colony Sim 43.3%, City Builder 41.8%, Historical 6.9%, Simulation 5.6%, Economy 2.3%
- #27 Poly Towns
82% matchMixed43% of 47 reviews2016
Dev: Red Phoenix Studios
Windows · Mac · Linux
Casual town builder that takes place on floating islands in a fantasy world. Grow your town and manage your resources in this challenging builder.
Why similar: Colony Sim 29.6%, City Builder 23.2%, Idler 16.1%, Simulation 6.6%, Stylized 6.5%
- #28 Civica: Italian Renaissance
79% matchNo user reviews
Dev: White Vertex Studios
Windows
Build your Italian empire in this realistic medieval RTS that combines truly organic city building and immersive roleplaying. City-states compete for influence, families such as the Medici try to divide power among themselves and artists create masterpieces that define an entire era.
Why similar: City Builder 32%, Colony Sim 30.3%, Simulation 12.1%, Immersive Sim 11.1%, Top-Down 5.1%
- #29 LowPolis
78% matchNo user reviews
Dev: BroWar Collective
Windows · Mac · Linux
Build, advance, reshape! For all those who have missed relaxing strategy classics. LowPolis is a friendly-paced city builder game where you become the ruler of a rising community. Begin with a handful of resources and pave your way to a truly majestic kingdom!
Why similar: City Builder 35%, Colony Sim 33.7%, Medieval 6.5%, Casual 5.7%, Simulation 5.3%
- #30 Pocket Academy 3
78% matchVery Positive94% of 225 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
After 12 long years, we're back and bringing the school festival with us!
Why similar: Colony Sim 36%, Life Sim 21.9%, City Builder 19.8%, Simulation 9.8%, Top-Down 5.4%
- #31 Dream Town Island
77% matchVery Positive96% of 460 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Median: 8.1 hrsMean: 11.7 hrs≥1hr: 77%
A town sim where you raise generations of residents. Unlock new stores and facilities, help your residents find love, or cash in on the stock market!
Why similar: Colony Sim 32.7%, City Builder 26.1%, Life Sim 19.5%, Simulation 9.3%, Casual 5%
- #32 Silver Screen Story
77% matchMostly Positive75% of 80 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Movie Studio Management Simulation Produce blockbusters and earn world-wide fame
Why similar: Colony Sim 39.6%, Life Sim 19.6%, City Builder 18.7%, Simulation 14.9%, Casual 7.2%
- #33 Stock Market Simulator
76% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: PolarPandaTeam
Windows
Start from nothing and climb your way to the top. Work everyday jobs, trade stocks and crypto, and explore a city full of side activities. Will you play it safe, or risk it all to become the ultimate investor?
Why similar: Life Sim 24.8%, Idler 22.4%, Immersive Sim 14.9%, Simulation 14.1%, Casual 8.6%
- #34 Biz Builder Delux
76% matchPositive83% of 46 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Run any store you like to build up your own buzzing business burg!
Why similar: Colony Sim 32.2%, City Builder 27.4%, Life Sim 17.9%, Simulation 14.8%, Casual 7.5%
- #35 Convenience Stories
75% matchVery Positive94% of 248 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Median: 3.8 hrsMean: 12.1 hrs≥1hr: 70%
Customize your own store with a wide variety of products and business goals.
Why similar: Colony Sim 42.9%, City Builder 18.2%, Life Sim 16.9%, Simulation 14.5%, Casual 7.4%
- #36 Blossoming Ruins
75% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Numor Games
Windows
Reclaim your land in this cozy idle kingdom simulator that quietly grows at the bottom of your screen as you go about your day. With 'The Great War' behind you, lead your villagers into an era of peace and prosperity, cultivating crops and rebuilding from the ruins.
Why similar: Colony Sim 29.6%, City Builder 22.3%, Idler 18.6%, Life Sim 9.5%, Simulation 4.6%
- #37 Cafe Master Story
74% matchVery Positive95% of 304 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Serve up food, drinks, and smiles in this retro cafe management sim!
Why similar: Colony Sim 34.4%, City Builder 23.6%, Life Sim 20%, Simulation 9.8%, Top-Down 5.7%
- #38 Trashcan Simulator
73% match6 user reviews100% of 6 reviews2025
Dev: Facish
Windows
The moment you throw something into the trash can is an exciting moment in your daily life. Through this game, you can enjoy the exciting moments of your life over and over again! You might discover something new by staring at the trash can in the room.
Why similar: Life Sim 34.4%, Immersive Sim 25.7%, Simulation 10%, Relaxing 9.8%, 3D 7.4%
- #39 Venture Towns
74% matchMostly Positive80% of 132 reviews2022
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Make your own metropolitan utopia! Stores, mansions, towers--anything goes!
Why similar: City Builder 30.2%, Colony Sim 28.5%, Life Sim 16.9%, Simulation 12.6%, Idler 5.9%
- #40 Delivery Pro
73% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2025
Dev: DAZE
Windows
A fast-paced restaurant management and indoor food-delivery game. Dash around with a tray yourself, hire and coordinate waiters, and during wave after wave of rush hours deliver the right dishes to the right guests via the shortest routes, snowballing tips as you continually expand the restaurant.
Why similar: City Builder 32%, Idler 23.2%, Immersive Sim 15.3%, Simulation 15.2%, Casual 9.3%
- #41 Abyssals
73% matchNo user reviews
Dev: OverPowered TeamPub: Shiro Unlimited
Windows
Abyssals is a Survival City Builder in the dark depths of an inhospitable planet. Build your underwater colony, explore where light can’t reach, and hunt for scarce resources. Expand your infrastructure and power your lamps, as danger lies in the deep, hidden in the dark.
Why similar: Colony Sim 36.5%, City Builder 30.7%, Simulation 13.9%, Stylized 6.5%, 3D 4.3%
- #42 Mega Mall Story 2
72% matchVery Positive95% of 115 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
A brand new business sim! Build cafés, movie theaters, aquariums, and more!
Why similar: Colony Sim 39.5%, Life Sim 22%, City Builder 18.4%, Simulation 14.6%, Casual 5.5%
- #43 Colonus
72% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Badhenke Studios
Windows · Mac
A medieval village-building game about shaping a charming settlement, cultivating the land, and watching a small community flourish.
Why similar: Colony Sim 44.2%, City Builder 28.8%, Simulation 17.1%, Medieval 5%, 3D 4.7%
- #44 Peasants
71% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Meeki Games
Windows
A city builder with a twist - Putting the focus of the game on the peasants who live and grow in your community. Cater for them, deal with their shortcomings and just maybe they will thrive.
Why similar: Colony Sim 39.8%, City Builder 29.7%, Stylized 8.8%, Simulation 8.7%, Medieval 7.3%
- #45 Hot Springs Story 2
71% matchVery Positive85% of 181 reviews2022
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
A "hot" new hot springs resort sim with a ton of new exclusive features!
Why similar: Colony Sim 39.3%, City Builder 22.9%, Life Sim 22.9%, Simulation 10%, Casual 4.8%
- #46 Forest Camp Story
71% matchVery Positive84% of 220 reviews2022
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Median: 9.2 hrsMean: 17.2 hrs≥1hr: 78%
Create and customize your own campground in this charming pixel art sim game.
Why similar: Colony Sim 32.5%, City Builder 27.6%, Life Sim 17.1%, Simulation 15%, Casual 7.6%
- #47 Tropical Resort Story
70% matchVery Positive92% of 180 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Median: 4.0 hrsMean: 14.2 hrs≥1hr: 57%
It's vacation time! Try your hand at managing a lush tropical resort!
Why similar: Colony Sim 39.9%, City Builder 29.3%, Simulation 12.2%, Casual 7.4%, Relaxing 4.9%
- #48 Kinlings
70% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Gobbo
Windows
Craft your tale in a whimsical fantasy world. Shape a charming city, fulfill Kinlings' needs, and watch their unique stories unfold. Explore, quest, farm, and build. Experience the enchantment of Kinlings.
Why similar: Colony Sim 34.4%, City Builder 27%, Immersive Sim 10.1%, Simulation 7.7%, Top-Down 5.6%
- #49 The Gaming Cafe
70% matchNo user reviews
Dev: BiliciPub: Ultimate Games S.A.
Windows
Build, run, and grow your own Gaming Cafe. Set up gaming stations, manage customer flow, and boost profits by selling drinks and shelf products.
Why similar: Colony Sim 27.3%, Life Sim 17.3%, City Builder 17.1%, Immersive Sim 10.8%, Idler 9.2%
- #50 Wheat and Wrath
69% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Past Imperfect Games
Windows
Wheat and Wrath is a fantasy city-builder about straw people transitioning from nomadic wheat gathering to a settled farming village with a patron god. To survive, players must sustain and grow the community, manage wrathful gods, trade for technology, and defend the village from raiders.
Why similar: City Builder 33.4%, Colony Sim 24.7%, Simulation 9.6%, Immersive Sim 7.4%, Relaxing 6.7%
- #51 Skyline Settlers
69% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Riza Ozhan
Windows
Build your colony on a floating island, keep your settlers happy and manage your resources wisely. Turn limited space into an advantage, create a peaceful town and enjoy a strategic life in the sky.
Why similar: Colony Sim 38.7%, City Builder 35.2%, Medieval 6.9%, Economy 6.5%, Relaxing 4.8%
- #52 The Last Blue ―Youth at the End of World―
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: afterglow games
Windows
Your youth,your rules.From heated battles to heart-pounding romance. This is a life simulation game set in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, where young people live their youth while surviving.
Why similar: Colony Sim 38.4%, Life Sim 22.1%, Simulation 15.4%, Idler 12.1%, Immersive Sim 9.5%
- #53 Little Porp
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: VuVuu
Windows
A Little Village or þorp Builder, which takes place on a 32x32 tile map. Use the resources available to keep your villagers warm, fed, and hydrated for as long as you can. When the little ice ages come, you must manage your resources wisely to prevent a very cold sad death of your villagers.
Why similar: Colony Sim 44.7%, City Builder 39.5%, Top-Down 9.1%, Casual 6.6%, Singleplayer 0.2%
- #54 Citizens: On Mars - Prologue
68% matchMostly Positive73% of 74 reviews2023
Dev: Redkar LimitedPub: CreativeForge Games
Windows
Experience the ultimate turn-based colony building game in Citizens: On Mars - Prologue! As the leader of a fledgling Martian settlement, your mission is to develop a thriving colony amidst the harsh and unforgiving environment of the Red Planet.
Why similar: Colony Sim 37.7%, City Builder 29.8%, Simulation 16.6%, Top-Down 6.2%, Casual 5.6%
- #55 Unknown Memoirs: Stormy Night
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: ZenVision Games
Windows
"Unknown Memoirs" is a short horror game series focusing on distressing tales of horror. "Stormy Night" sets the player in a world where an unnatural storm has been going on for days. As the player explores the world around them, things start to take a turn towards the unnatural.
Why similar: Colony Sim 29.3%, City Builder 22.9%, Idler 16.9%, Immersive Sim 11.9%, Simulation 8.1%
- #56 Paradise Architect: Idle Tycoon
67% matchMixed69% of 13 reviews2023
Dev: zzeerr
Windows
Click to get money. Build buildings, develop the city infrastructure to increase passive income. Keep the infrastructure of the city in working condition by completing quests on time and get bonuses.
Why similar: Colony Sim 28.2%, City Builder 27.1%, Idler 24.9%, Simulation 6.9%, Top-Down 6.4%
- #57 Corbel
66% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Not A Robot Games
Windows · Linux
Play as a giant and build a micro medieval city in this unique city builder. Pick up villagers and command them to do your bidding, create production lines and manage resources while defending against hoards of pillaging gnomes. Get involved yourself and help gather resources, transport, and more!
Why similar: Colony Sim 34.9%, City Builder 27.3%, Simulation 8.5%, Stylized 8.5%, Relaxing 6.2%
- #58 Colony Simulator
67% matchMixed67% of 424 reviews2022
Dev: Indie Marc
Windows
Can your Colony survive 10 days or more in the desert? Find food, build your colony, recruit new workers, feed your population, craft tools and equipment, cook food and research technologies!
Why similar: Colony Sim 41.6%, City Builder 37%, Simulation 16.3%, 3D 4.9%, Singleplayer 0.2%
- #59 Misty Garden
66% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Sabu
Windows
Build the garden, fulfilling requests from the cute visitors, and even recruit them to create items! Decorate your misty garden to welcome cute little creatures, provide a place to help them relax!
Why similar: Colony Sim 36.5%, City Builder 27%, Relaxing 8.4%, Stylized 7.6%, Simulation 6.1%
- #60 Tutankhamun – Builders of the Eternal
66% matchNo user reviews2027
Dev: TreeByte Software
Windows
A 3D city-builder where you farm the Nile, worship powerful gods, train armies, trade with distant regions, and construct monumental works worthy of ancient Egypt.
Why similar: Colony Sim 36.7%, City Builder 30.5%, Simulation 14.5%, Historical 9.7%, 3D 4.7%