- #1 Deadburg
97% matchVery Positive88% of 124 reviews2022
Dev: Reanimated Games
Windows
Deadburg is a co-op survival game set in a procedurally generated city with thousands of buildings to explore and zombies to kill. Every building you see can be explored, exploited and destroyed one block at a time. Play alone or with friends and discover the secrets of the city.
Why similar: Base Building 28.6%, Survival 23.3%, Zombies 14%, Co-op 7.5%, PvE 7.4%
- #2 Paloma Island
96% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Houari Mohamed AminePub: Damz Games
Windows
Stranded after a storm, survive the uncharted dangers of Paloma Island. Gather resources, craft tools, and build shelter in this open-world sandbox survival adventure. Explore lush biomes and diverse locations, uncover secrets, and face wildlife and enemies to stay alive.
Why similar: Base Building 24.7%, Survival 19.8%, PvP 14.3%, Action-Adventure 9.2%, Zombies 8.9%
- #3 Pair A Dice
96% matchMixed58% of 571 reviews2025
Dev: Guckles
Windows
Pair A Dice is a Co-Op Dice Roller where you harness the power of magic dice to create enemies, craft items, and defeat bosses!
Why similar: Online Co-Op 20.8%, PvE 16.6%, Co-op 16.4%, Physics 11.2%, Action-Adventure 10%
- #4 Sitting Ducks
95% matchNo user reviews
Dev: The Gang Pub: The Gang
Windows
A chaotic co-op armageddon game where you build ridiculous structures to survive world-ending disasters with sticky hands, physics chaos & friends who probably won’t save you. Don´t be a Sitting Duck!
Why similar: Base Building 23.5%, Online Co-Op 18%, Co-op 15.8%, Survival 15%, Physics 8.4%
- #5 The Last Viking
94% matchNo user reviews
Dev: NoBrain Studio
Windows
Play as a young viking, learn to survive and fight in the wilderness. To fulfill your destiny, explore an island alone or in cooperation with friends, build structures, confront Norse gods and mythological creatures. Will you be the last Viking?
Why similar: Base Building 22.5%, Survival 20.3%, Online Co-Op 16.1%, Co-op 13.9%, Building 9.2%
- #6 Escape From SanGuo
91% matchMixed55% of 65 reviews2026
Dev: 『風林火山』工作室Pub: Path
Windows
东汉末年,群雄割据,民不聊生——但对你来说,风浪越大,鱼越贵! 欢迎来到 《我在三国开黑店》:一款融合经营模拟、轻度搜打撤与角色养成的三国题材动作冒险游戏。在这里,你不是将军,不是谋士,而是一位深谙“黑店之道”的少东家:平日里高价卖货、训练手下、笼络名将;深夜悄悄出城、搜刮物资、抢夺宝藏!
Why similar: Survival 24%, PvP 18%, Action-Adventure 13.2%, Online Co-Op 12.3%, Co-op 11.7%
- #7 BiteVille
92% matchMixed54% of 52 reviews2020
Dev: Veelhoek Studios
Windows
The world has fallen victim to a deadly virus, zombies now roam the lands. While running for your life you stumble upon a small city. Claim this city as your own, protect it with your life and maybe other survivors will find you.
Why similar: Base Building 22.1%, Survival 15.4%, Online Co-Op 15.1%, Zombies 12.4%, Co-op 10.6%
- #8 State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition
91% matchVery Positive83% of 68,064 reviews2020
Dev: Undead LabsPub: Xbox Game Studios
Windows
Median: 9.0 hrsMean: 39.1 hrs≥1hr: 90%
The dead have risen and civilization has fallen. Now it's up to you to gather survivors, scavenge for resources and build a community in a post-apocalyptic world – a world where you define what it means to survive in this ultimate zombie survival simulation.
Why similar: Base Building 29.2%, Survival 27.2%, Zombies 16.9%, Co-op 11.8%, Online Co-Op 10.1%
- #9 Habitat Toxica
90% matchNo user reviews
Dev: İ.B
Windows
In Habitat Toxica, a mysterious virus mutates animals into hostile creatures, pushing them toward extinction. As one of the few chimpanzees who gained intelligence from the infection, you must fight for survival and save the remaining wildlife.
Why similar: Base Building 19.6%, Survival 18.7%, Online Co-Op 15.1%, Co-op 13.1%, Building 10.3%
- #10 AshBall
89% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Kyaoo
Windows
Outrun the lava. Trust your teammate. One ball, one chance — pass or perish in AshBall’s minimalist, deadly arenas. Climb the leaderboard together and prove you're the ultimate duo.
Why similar: Physics 23.5%, Online Co-Op 18.7%, Co-op 13.9%, 2D Platformer 11.6%, Strategy 10.5%
- #11 Dinosaur World
89% matchMixed63% of 168 reviews2025
Dev: Dinosaur StudioPub: CoolRabbit Games
Windows
Dinosaur World is a survival game about dinosaurs.
Why similar: Base Building 45.1%, Survival 34.4%, Building 19%, Action 0.7%, Adventure 0.7%
- #12 Hardcore Survival
88% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Rapid Iterations
Windows
The only aim is to survive. Everything wants you to die - dinosaurs, the environment and other survivors. Do whatever it takes to stay alive.
Why similar: Base Building 22%, Survival 19.6%, PvP 13.3%, PvE 11.6%, Building 10.2%
- #13 Isle of the Night: Pirate Survivors
87% matchPositive100% of 22 reviews2025
Dev: BehaUlas
Windows
Survive the pirate island! Craft by day, battle waves of enemies by night in this roguelike survival game. Gather resources, unlock powerful abilities, and upgrade your gear to stand against increasing threats. How long can you last in this relentless fight for survival?
Why similar: Base Building 17.8%, Survival 15.9%, PvP 11.2%, Co-op 10.3%, Online Co-Op 10.2%
- #14 Upon Dusk
86% matchNo user reviews2027
Dev: Frogforge
Windows
Welcome to the world of Upon Dusk, a new PvPvE survival shooter. Set in Avalon, you were sealed in a city that was left for dead while the government finds out what went wrong outside the walls. Will you survive?
Why similar: Base Building 27.9%, PvE 16.2%, Action-Adventure 13%, Zombies 12.5%, Building 9.2%
- #15 Zeverland
86% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Quantum Quirks
Windows
Welcome to Zeverland. Common sense is your best weapon against the Zeds. After figuring out the "not dying" part, grab some friends to save the world. Find a cure, build a rocket, or a tower too high for Zeds to climb. Nothing's off limits. You're here at the very start of the apocalypse. Go wild!
Why similar: Base Building 22%, Survival 17.2%, Online Co-Op 13%, Co-op 10.6%, Zombies 10.5%
- #16 Isle of Survival: The New Dawn
85% match2 user reviews100% of 2 reviews2025
Dev: BlueSlay3r
Windows
“Survive and rebuild on a mysterious island. Explore diverse biomes, battle zombies, craft, farm, trade, and harness electricity in this open-world sandbox adventure — alone or with friends.”
Why similar: Survival 27.2%, Base Building 20.5%, PvE 16.1%, Action-Adventure 11.4%, Zombies 8.2%
- #17 Lava Survival
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: IoSonoNeon
Windows
Lava Survival is a competitive multiplayer survival game built in s&box, featuring one of Source 2's first real-time lava fluid simulations, terrain excavation, and on-the fly base building. Outlast up to 12 opponents across 3 brutal rounds and fight your way to the top of the global leaderboard.
Why similar: Base Building 21.1%, Survival 18.6%, Building 14.2%, PvP 13.2%, Action 12.3%
- #18 Wilderness Edge
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Envying CentaurPub: Envying Centaur Gaming
Windows
Wilderness Edge is a open world survival multiplayer game. You must rely on your instincts to forage for resources, build shelter, and hunt for sustenance to survive.
Why similar: Survival 17.7%, Action-Adventure 14.4%, Action 11.8%, Adventure 10.2%, PvE 9.9%
- #19 Space Engineers
83% matchVery Positive89% of 133,721 reviews2019
Dev: Keen Software House
Windows
Median: 9.0 hrsMean: 96.0 hrs≥1hr: 88%
Space Engineers is a sandbox engineering game where you design and build ships, stations, and planetary bases in a fully destructible environment. Explore planets and space, mine resources, survive hazards, and engage in combat alone or with friends in Creative or Survival modes.
Why similar: Base Building 19.4%, Survival 14.7%, Physics 11.9%, Co-op 11.5%, PvP 11.1%
- #20 Landiscape
82% match6 user reviews57% of 6 reviews2026
Dev: GTI
Windows
Landiscape is a relaxed 1–4 player open-world survival sandbox set on a zombie-infested island. Build bases, scavenge resources, explore dangerous landmarks, grow crops, and survive together — or turn on your friends.
Why similar: Base Building 29.3%, Survival 23%, PvP 15.1%, PvE 10.7%, Action-Adventure 8%
- #21 Beat Sentient Protocol
82% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Whtshubyz LLc
Windows
Help a living town of AI citizens. Build, trap, and defend your home from nightly hordes in a fully physical VR world. Placing traps and adding more AI townsmen will help decrease the monster horde from damaging buildings. Smooth VR no uncomfortable movement.
Why similar: Base Building 15.1%, Survival 13.8%, Action-Adventure 11.9%, Zombies 9.7%, PvP 9.4%
- #22 Isekai Mystic World
81% match9 user reviews89% of 9 reviews2025
Dev: Yuki Game Studio
Windows
Your wish has come true: welcome to Isekai Mystic World! Explore a vibrant world, hunt, fish, farm, and build your home. Forge epic weapons, face dangers, and uncover secrets, alone or with friends, in this action-survival adventure!
Why similar: Online Co-Op 16.1%, Survival 16%, Base Building 13.8%, PvE 13.8%, Action-Adventure 12.4%
- #23 Blightrest
81% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Zero Hype Games
Windows
Blightrest is a co-op survival action game set in a dark, open world where every decision brings you closer to either salvation or eternal damnation. Master survival, build fortifications, banish demons with ancient rituals, and explore the Wastes where even shadows have eyes.
Why similar: Base Building 27.8%, Survival 22.1%, Co-op 15.7%, PvE 8.1%, Action-Adventure 8%
- #24 Nyric
79% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Lovelace Studio
Windows
Nyric is a third-person survivalcraft where your words shape the world. Type a phrase—“A storm-haunted wasteland”—and step into a procedurally generated realm built from your imagination. Survive harsh climates and strange hazards using Faebots— AI companions with unique powers tied to their moods.
Why similar: Base Building 23%, Survival 18.8%, Online Co-Op 14.3%, Co-op 13%, Building 9.7%
- #25 Fallout Shelter
79% matchVery Positive88% of 81,107 reviews2017
Dev: Bethesda Game StudiosPub: Bethesda Softworks
Windows
Median: 4.8 hrsMean: 32.0 hrs≥1hr: 77%
Fallout Shelter puts you in control of a state-of-the-art underground Vault from Vault-Tec. Build the perfect Vault, keep your Dwellers happy, and protect them from the dangers of the Wasteland.
Why similar: Base Building 43.3%, Survival 28.8%, Building 8%, Simulation 5.3%, Strategy 4.8%
- #26 Space Warrior
78% match6 user reviews83% of 6 reviews2024
Dev: KqqnkiPub: Remax
Windows
Use your skills and strategy to save your galaxy in Space Warrior, a fast-paced 2D survival game where you fight with alien invaders. Each level presents unique challenges and you need to defeat waves of enemies to survive.
Why similar: Survival 15.6%, 2D Platformer 15.5%, Action-Adventure 13.9%, Action 12.5%, Simulation 12.1%
- #27 Junk Survivor
77% matchMostly Positive72% of 81 reviews2023
Dev: Neojac Entertainment Inc.
Windows
Junk Survivor is a zombie post-apocalypse game where you loot, craft, build and farm in a struggle to survive. With a vast map to explore, a robust skillset to unlock this customizable sandbox awaits the adventurer. How long before you die!
Why similar: Survival 21.4%, Base Building 16.5%, Zombies 14.9%, PvE 12.6%, Action-Adventure 10.9%
- #28 STOLEN CITY
78% matchMixed53% of 38 reviews2022
Dev: LeeJones Games Development
Windows
This is a survival game in a city that has been captured by gangs. Survive, develop, explore a huge city, craft, build bases, fight gangs and other players for resources.
Why similar: Base Building 26%, Survival 20.9%, PvP 14.4%, PvE 12.5%, Hand-drawn 6.8%
- #29 A Snail's Pace
76% match5 user reviews100% of 5 reviews2025
Dev: Dox Studios
Windows · Mac · Linux
It was all a normal day in the garden, Jerry the snail was relaxing. Then he heard the screams of the locals being terrorized by the Beetle. It was on this day that he made it his mission to take down the Beetle and restore order to the garden as it was meant to be.
Why similar: 2D Platformer 28.1%, PvE 22.4%, Action-Adventure 16.9%, Action 9.2%, Casual 8.4%
- #30 Dive Into The Survival
77% match1 user reviews0% of 1 reviews2024
Dev: Modak Studio
Windows
[Dive Into The Survival] is a cooperative zombie apocalypse survival game.
Why similar: Base Building 27.5%, Survival 21.3%, PvE 14.5%, Zombies 14.4%, Action-Adventure 10.4%
- #31 Lost In Dimensions
75% matchNo user reviews
Dev: IdecoGames
Windows
This is a survival game where you must unveil the story and find your truth. Decide your fate and avoid trouble in the form of military bandits and keep an eye out for those pesky sharks! Explore dimensions, islands and discover civilisations. Good luck!
Why similar: Action-Adventure 13.2%, Base Building 12.5%, Survival 11.6%, Action 11%, Strategy 10.7%
- #32 Christmas Shooter
76% match1 user reviews0% of 1 reviews2022
Dev: Jakub
Windows
it's a 2d game focused on Christmas where it's snowing and you have to shoot candy at people, the game should be fun and have nice music ---------------------------------------------- your end is a goal where you have to get all the way to the end and you have two endings which are secret and normal
Why similar: Survival 14.9%, 2D Platformer 13.5%, Action 11.4%, Action-Adventure 10.8%, Physics 10.1%
- #33 Cozy
74% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Underwater Studio
Windows
Build a cozy life in a peaceful town where farming, fishing, and gentle exploration come together in a warm, relaxing experience.
Why similar: Survival 21.8%, PvP 19.5%, Co-op 13.4%, Online Co-Op 13.4%, Anime 12.8%
- #34 Beyond Hope
75% match8 user reviews63% of 8 reviews2023
Dev: Wildlak
Windows
Beyond Hope gives you and your friends one epic space journey! Your mission alone or with friends is to save yourself from getting pulled into the hot Sun. Gather debris, scavenge asteroids and build your own space station. Reach for the stars and survive when all odds are against you!
Why similar: Base Building 23.4%, Co-op 20.3%, Action-Adventure 13.6%, Online Co-Op 11%, Action 7.9%
- #35 Backrooms in the Forest
73% match2 user reviews100% of 2 reviews2026
Dev: Awecom
Windows
Backrooms in the Forest - a horror game where you must escape from a mysterious forest and find your way out of the anomalies!
Why similar: Survival 28.1%, Zombies 18.9%, Adventure 11.9%, Action 11.5%, Action-Adventure 10.8%
- #36 rudeirer.wtf
73% matchPositive89% of 19 reviews2025
Dev: rudeirer.wtf
Windows
A collection containing a variety of mostly fun, sometimes multiplayer minigames
Why similar: Action-Adventure 17.6%, Online Co-Op 16.5%, PvE 14.9%, Adventure 11.9%, Physics 11.9%
- #37 It Is For Her
73% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: MonteRort*
Windows
'It is for her' is a 2D open-world survival platformer following the journey of Jack, a father who ventures to a remote island to meet his daughter again. Explore deep underground caves and dangerous forests filled with villains and monsters, armed only with weapons, torches, food, and wits.
Why similar: 2D Platformer 25.5%, PvE 20.4%, Action-Adventure 15.5%, Survival 13.3%, Hand-drawn 9.1%
- #38 Dead Matter
74% matchMostly Negative21% of 885 reviews2023
Dev: QI Games
Windows
After a rampant viral outbreak causes global society to collapse, you must survive the harsh wilderness of the Canadian Rockies amidst vast hordes of Infected and rival survivors.
Why similar: Base Building 18.9%, Survival 17.1%, Co-op 13.2%, Zombies 12.7%, Online Co-Op 12.6%
- #39 Unhuman Nightmare
72% match8 user reviews75% of 8 reviews2024
Dev: Proeminent Code SRL
Windows · Mac
Unhuman Nightmare is a 4 player online co-op game where a team of thieves want to steal items from haunted places. What they don't know is that the places are full of traps set by ghosts. Chances are, they'll not escape alive...
Why similar: Online Co-Op 20.7%, Survival 20.2%, Co-op 17.8%, PvE 15.5%, Action-Adventure 11.4%
- #40 Catch it
71% match8 user reviews100% of 8 reviews2025
Dev: CCLXGAMES
Windows
"Dusk to Dawn, Strategy Drawn" In this blighted realm, daylight grants but fleeting respite— While darkness unleashes the reaper's carnival. As the Last Nightwatch, you must wield more than steel: To orchestrate the symphony of survival.
Why similar: Base Building 35.4%, Survival 21.4%, Building 13.7%, Action-Adventure 13.5%, Action 6.7%
- #41 Vectorio Classic
72% matchVery Positive93% of 1,479 reviews2021
Dev: Ben NicholsPub: BN Games
Windows · Mac · Linux
The original, uncompleted version of Vectorio. Claim resources, unlock new buildings, and expand your defenses as you fight back against enemy forces in the classic edition of Vectorio! Play for free now.
Why similar: Base Building 24.9%, Survival 17.4%, Co-op 12.8%, PvP 12.2%, PvE 11.7%
- #42 DREADZONE
70% matchMixed52% of 1,188 reviews2025
Dev: Eshed
Windows
Dreadzone is a survival game set in a deadly quarantine zone. Scavenge for resources, craft tools, build shelter, and survive against dangerous animals, zombies, mutants, and other survivors. Explore the zone where desperation drives everyone to do whatever it takes to survive.
Why similar: Base Building 26.3%, Survival 21.7%, Co-op 16.1%, Zombies 12.1%, Building 9.6%
- #43 MineEngineer
71% matchNo user reviews
Dev: MoonBuninni
Windows · Mac
Mine. Build. Survive. Engineer your way through the cosmos in this 2D space engineering sandbox!
Why similar: Base Building 18.9%, Survival 17%, Building 12.9%, Co-op 12.8%, PvE 9.5%
- #44 Forging Master
70% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Poppy King
Windows
This is a single player horizontal 2D sandbox game. You can change the terrain. The game includes content on analog circuits. You can use an anvil to forge equipment. Some monsters can also change the terrain.
Why similar: Base Building 25.6%, Survival 16.5%, Physics 14.7%, Zombies 10.5%, Building 9.7%
- #45 Dodge It!
70% matchVery Positive90% of 921 reviews2021
Dev: samuel crevier
Windows
Do you have enough strength to be #1?
Why similar: Survival 20.7%, 2D Platformer 20.3%, Physics 16.7%, Action 14.7%, Strategy 14.7%
- #46 Pigs and Wolf
69% matchNo user reviews
Dev: WakaStudio
Windows
A chaotic online co-op survival-crafting adventure where three little pigs build a rolling wagon-home, survive the wolf each night, and travel through a fairytale world.
Why similar: Survival 18.2%, Online Co-Op 15.4%, Co-op 14.7%, Physics 14%, PvE 11.7%
- #47 Stain
69% matchNo user reviews
Dev: RearmingStudios
Windows
STAIN is a cooperative survival horror where players must survive, complete objectives, and escape a distorted world. Every sound can betray you. Speak, move, or act carelessly — and something will notice. The Stain has you.
Why similar: Base Building 18.4%, PvP 17.1%, Online Co-Op 15.6%, Co-op 15.6%, Survival 12.1%
- #48 Zombie Builder Defense
71% matchMixed67% of 509 reviews2018
Dev: Noham Games
Windows
Median: 1.5 hrsMean: 4.6 hrs≥1hr: 57%
Top down, action packed, multiplayer, zombie shooter. Build your base with friends and see how long you can survive the endless horde of zombies. Level up with friends, or alone, how you die is up to you.
Why similar: Base Building 25.9%, Survival 18.2%, Online Co-Op 16.9%, Zombies 15.2%, Co-op 12.2%
- #49 Qubica
69% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Tomahawk Interactive
Windows · Mac · Linux
A next-generation sandbox game heavily inspired by The Blockheads. All about exploring, building, and playing together. Mine resources, craft tools, build a cozy cabin or an entire city.
Why similar: Base Building 20.9%, Survival 14.7%, 2D Platformer 13.8%, PvE 12.4%, Co-op 11.1%
- #50 Medieval Remembrance
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: HorseFeatherGamingPub: HorseFeathers
Windows
Fight for Christendom and defeat the Romuva pagans of Old Prussia and their Necromantic ways.
Why similar: Survival 20.8%, Base Building 20.8%, Online Co-Op 14.8%, PvE 13.3%, Action-Adventure 9.7%
- #51 The Islands
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Trash Studios
Windows
An open-world survival game. Use your environment to craft items and structures. Physics based with weather and day/night. More than 50 different animals. Combat and non-combat activities fishing.
Why similar: Base Building 28.9%, Survival 23.2%, Physics 14.3%, Action-Adventure 11.7%, Building 6.5%
- #52 Hide or Seek: Container Island
67% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Thia Studio
Windows
Hide or Seek: Container Island is COOP, PVP or solo game where you can hide as a cat or seek as a dog. While hiding, you have to hide through multiple areas in Container Island using magic potions from Dhugs, while evading creatures. While seeking, you have to capture all cats.
Why similar: Online Co-Op 24.7%, PvP 19.5%, PvE 19.5%, Action-Adventure 13.8%, Adventure 6.5%
- #53 Richest Thief
67% match8 user reviews88% of 8 reviews2024
Dev: MsGlobalPub: Remax42
Windows
You sprint down a dusty road, diamonds clutched in your hand, fleeing thugs. You run through crumbling buildings, past ghosts of the past. Reaching the end of the road, you watch the thieves disappear into the darkness. The diamonds remain, a promise of freedom.
Why similar: 2D Platformer 33.4%, Action-Adventure 21.4%, Action 13.5%, Casual 12.1%, Adventure 10.3%
- #54 Scrap Mechanic
68% matchVery Positive92% of 117,481 reviews2016
Dev: Axolot Games
Windows
Median: 11.2 hrsMean: 58.2 hrs≥1hr: 91%
Enter the creative paradise of Scrap Mechanic! Build fantastic machines, go on adventures with your friends and defend against waves of evil Farmbots in this imaginative multiplayer survival sandbox. With Scrap Mechanic’s powerful creation tools you can engineer your own adventures!
Why similar: Survival 21.6%, Base Building 19.2%, Physics 16.8%, Building 14.7%, Co-op 11%
- #55 Lodventure
66% matchMostly Positive74% of 161 reviews2023
Dev: Sky Games
Windows
Embark on a 1-4 players Co-op survival adventure in an open world wilderness in search of a myth called the Lod Stone. Build your house, sow your crops, brew potions, tame a horse and discover powerful abilities. Venture into dangerous dungeons, fight unique bosses to find the Lod stone.
Why similar: Survival 19.5%, Base Building 19.2%, Co-op 16.6%, Online Co-Op 11.3%, Action-Adventure 11.1%
- #56 Remain
66% matchVery Negative18% of 62 reviews2025
Dev: XTop Game
Windows
Remain is an MMO game. Within this open world, you can tame "zombies", making them your labor force, or commanding them to fight your foes. Apart from zombies, you will still have to face the survival challenges of food and water. Remaining warriors, don't let your guard down, and keep surviving...
Why similar: Survival 21.4%, Base Building 14.7%, Online Co-Op 13.3%, PvP 12.7%, Building 11.8%
- #57 Zombocalypse
65% match4 user reviews75% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: NeroStudios
Windows · Linux
Dive into a top-down shooter where you’ll battle relentless waves of zombies, either solo or with friends! Face off against formidable bosses, unlock upgrades through a tech tree, and enjoy a casual gaming experience crafted with passion by an indie developer.
Why similar: Online Co-Op 22.3%, Bullet Hell 18.9%, PvE 17.1%, Action-Adventure 11%, Survival 8.9%