- #1 Construction Machines SIM: Bridges, buildings and constructor trucks simulator
97% match3 user reviews0% of 3 reviews2022
Dev: Kingdom CapitalPub: Best Ride Simulators
Windows
Have you ever imagined driving a concrete pump, bulldozer or even a tower crane? Now it's your time to learn to operate heavy construction machines thanks to Construction Machines SIM: Bridges, buildings and constructor trucks simulator!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 50.3%, Simulation 27.3%, Casual 10.6%, 3D 6.5%, Physics 4.1%
- #2 Truck Mechanic Simulator 2015
96% matchMixed53% of 235 reviews2015
Dev: PlayWay SA
Windows
Median: 36 minMean: 20.1 hrs≥1hr: 40%
Get ready for the big ones! This stunning simulator puts you in the front seat of a serious car workshop specialized in servicing trucks. With over 100 interactive parts per truck, this highly detailed title is not for the lightweight!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 68.8%, Simulation 21.4%, Casual 9.8%
- #3 18 Wheels of Steel: Across America
95% matchVery Positive88% of 181 reviews2016
Dev: SCS SoftwarePub: Cosmi Valusoft
Windows
Median: 24 minMean: 2.6 hrs≥1hr: 26%
Drive faster than your competition, haul your cargo across the entire United States and feel the wind in your face as you control your own destiny. Blast the horn and build a career in the fast-paced world of trucking.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 71.5%, Simulation 28.5%
- #4 Munich Bus Simulator
94% matchMixed60% of 340 reviews2014
Dev: TML-StudiosPub: Aerosoft GmbH
Windows
A new milestone in simulation: Citybus Simulator Munich, the successor of the popular City Bus Simulator 2010 - New York, covering the complete 100 line also known as the museum line. Starting at the main Rail Station Nord it passes 22 museums and other sightseeing spots to conclude its journey at Munich´s "Ostbahnhof".
Why similar: Automobile Sim 71%, Simulation 25.5%, Casual 2.5%, Physics 0.9%
- #5 Another world: Truck driver
94% match6 user reviews33% of 6 reviews2018
Dev: Another world
Windows
The main idea of the game is to immerse oneself in the life of a truck driver, to tear one’s truck apart and re-assemble it, making it one’s perfect truck. Each delivered cargo can become a real trial.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 76.1%, Simulation 21.2%, Indie 2.7%
- #6 Vulture -Unlimited Frontier- /0
92% matchNo user reviews
Dev: 濡れ路
Windows
This is an action game in which the player builds and controls a giant robot. The game features ground crawling 3D maneuvers, customizable elements, picturesque characters, and scenarios. Even those who have never been good at action games will surely find that Vulture will respond to their needs.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 37.2%, Mechs 27.8% ★, Action 14.4%, Robots 9.2%, Sci-fi 6.8%
- #7 Fork Truck Challenge
93% matchMostly Negative33% of 12 reviews2015
Dev: Mint Arcade Ltd.
Windows
Fork Truck Challenge is a game about moving cargo from point A to point B. Players test their accuracy skills to the limit by operating heavy lifting machinery. You gain points for successfully delivering cargo as fast as you can.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 77%, Simulation 20.5%, Indie 2.5%
- #8 Dead End
90% match4 user reviews60% of 5 reviews2025
Dev: 歧途工作室
Windows
This is a very boring driving game where players need to adjust the direction using the left and right arrows and control the brakes with the spacebar. The goal is to choose the right path to keep moving forward and avoid reaching a dead end. Can you make it to the end?
Why similar: Automobile Sim 45.9%, Philosophical 28%, Simulation 10.9%, Casual 8.9%, 3D 4.3%
- #9 Monoa City Parking
91% match3 user reviews67% of 3 reviews2019
Dev: FreezeNova
Windows
Drive fast and reach the parking place before the time is running out
Why similar: Automobile Sim 73.4%, Simulation 20.8%, 3D 3.1%, Indie 2.7%
- #10 Police Stunt Cars
91% matchPositive83% of 12 reviews2019
Dev: FreezeNova
Windows
Welcome to Police Stunt Cars! You thought that policemen didn’t like drifts? Say no more! Speed and drift around the map while doing radical stunts
Why similar: Automobile Sim 72.4%, Simulation 21.8%, 3D 3.2%, Indie 2.7%
- #11 Car Mechanic Simulator 2014
89% matchVery Positive83% of 5,129 reviews2014
Dev: Red Dot GamesPub: PlayWay S.A.
Windows · Mac
Median: 1.0 hrsMean: 10.4 hrs≥1hr: 49%
Now you can own and operate your own auto repair service with PlayWay’s Car Mechanic Simulator 2014. Car Mechanic Simulator 2014 gives you the behind the scenes view of the daily dealings at local garages and dealership repair shops.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 75.5%, Simulation 23.5%, Casual 0.8%, Indie 0.2%
- #12 Forklift 2024 - The Simulation
88% matchMixed62% of 13 reviews2024
Dev: Polygon ArtPub: Polygon Art Publishing
Windows
Get ready to lift and transport your way to success in Forklift 2024 - The Simulation! Operate your forklift, complete orders, and expand your warehouse while tackling challenging puzzles. With stunning graphics and intuitive controls, this game is perfect for all gamers!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 51.7%, Simulation 30%, Casual 10.5%, 3D 6.6%, Indie 1.2%
- #13 Mech Mechanic Simulator: Prologue
86% matchMostly Positive78% of 141 reviews2021
Dev: PolyslashPub: Valkyrie Initiative
Windows
Become a Mech Mechanic to deconstruct, rebuild, paint and fix gigantic iron machines. You live in an age of enormous machines and you better get ready to get your hands dirty!
Why similar: Mechs 32.7% ★, Simulation 21.3%, Robots 17.4%, Sci-fi 8.4%, Futuristic 8%
- #14 The IOTA Project
87% matchMixed69% of 98 reviews2017
Dev: DreamSail Games
Windows
Median: 30 minMean: 11.0 hrs≥1hr: 44%
The IOTA Project is a VR game where you are thrown into the cockpit of a giant mech. Pilot IOTA as you destroy the enemies who have taken over the city using your two giant robot fists and an array of powerful weapons. This is a pre-alpha free demo.
Why similar: Simulation 34.1%, Mechs 31.1% ★, Action 16.3%, Robots 16.2%, Indie 2.4%
- #15 Towtruck Simulator 2015
89% matchVery Negative17% of 318 reviews2014
Dev: United Independent Entertainment
Windows
Median: 12 minMean: 9.3 hrs≥1hr: 18%
In this simulation, the player works as the owner a large car park, on which the towed vehicles will be parked. A huge armada of different towing vehicles is ready to go. The trucks are on the road to find illegally parked cars. For each order you earn money, as being towed might be very expensive for the owner.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 76.1%, Simulation 23.9%
- #16 gold scrapping simulator
84% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2024
Dev: Adam Rakan
Windows
Transform e-waste into gold in this captivating life simulator. Dive deep into the intricate world of electronic recycling, upgrade your tools, and strike fortune. Uncover the secrets of tech wealth in a thrilling quest for precious metals
Why similar: Automobile Sim 43.4%, Simulation 21.9%, Collectathon 20.2%, Casual 9.8%, 3D 3.8%
- #17 NOTTOLOT
82% matchVery Positive91% of 175 reviews2024
Dev: Bandai Namco Studios Inc.Pub: Phoenixx Inc.
Windows
NOTTOLOT is a free play robot hacking action game. The main character, Rolly, uses his "hacking ability" to control four enemies and escape from a robot production factory!
Why similar: Mechs 34.4% ★, Robots 24.4%, Action 19.8%, Casual 15.6%, 3D 4.5%
- #18 18 Wheels of Steel: Extreme Trucker
86% matchMostly Positive72% of 240 reviews2009
Pub: Cosmi Valusoft
Windows
Median: 36 minMean: 60.2 hrs≥1hr: 41%
You ‘da Boss! Move it better and faster while staying alive. Build your reputation and your empire in the far corners of the world as you haul across the most extreme conditions and loads. Grab the wheel and hop in – is your heart pounding yet? Haul extreme cargo - from diamonds to oil pipes - across 3 death-defying terrains.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 74.9%, Simulation 25.1%
- #19 Bus Driver
84% matchVery Positive83% of 2,357 reviews2014
Dev: SCS Software
Windows
Median: 24 minMean: 6.0 hrs≥1hr: 35%
In Bus Driver, your job is to transport passengers around an attractive and realistic city. You must drive to a timetable on a planned route, whilst obeying traffic rules, and taking care not to upset or injure your passengers.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 72%, Simulation 25.2%, Casual 1.4%, Indie 1.4%
- #20 Rig n Roll
85% matchMixed58% of 584 reviews2010
Dev: SoftLab-NSKPub: Fulqrum Publishing
Windows
Median: 30 minMean: 4.0 hrs≥1hr: 30%
Players will step into the shoes of a young man in the year 2014 as he arrives in California to pursue his dreams of road domination and capture the Californian cargo transportation market. There are miles of highways to conquer and cities and towns to reach as he becomes the greatest trucker on the highways.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 66.1%, Simulation 33.9%
- #21 Truck Life
83% matchMixed56% of 1,623 reviews2020
Dev: 惊叹号游戏工作室
Windows
Brand new truck simulation game, experience fun from a variety of truck driving. Drive around the original Chinese map, complete hundreds of specialty tasks through different cities. Meet in the mountains, rivers, lakes and seas. Let’s share your truck life.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 68.7%, Simulation 19.3%, Casual 9.8%, Indie 2.2%
- #22 Car Driver 5
81% match2 user reviews100% of 2 reviews2025
Dev: BYCODEC GAMES
Windows · Mac
A calming game that will help you relieve the stress of the day.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 50.5%, Simulation 27.5%, Casual 17.3%, Physics 3.5%, Indie 1.3%
- #23 Stunt Simulator Multiplayer
82% matchVery Positive95% of 79 reviews2018
Dev: FreezeNova
Windows
Choose a car, perform amazing stunts and drifts, collect as many points you can get and buy the rest of the cars.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 74.1%, Simulation 22.9%, Indie 3%
- #24 Car Driving School Simulator
78% matchMixed56% of 18 reviews2025
Dev: BoomBit
Windows · Mac · Linux
Car Driving School Simulator is one of the most realistic car games available! In this feature-packed game you will test your skills driving awesome cars and learn useful traffic rules along the way!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 46.1%, Simulation 25%, Casual 13.6%, Cute 6%, Action 4.8%
- #25 Trucks & Trailers
81% matchMixed70% of 573 reviews2014
Dev: SCS Software
Windows
Median: 24 minMean: 23.7 hrs≥1hr: 30%
Put your truck driving skills to the test in Trucks & Trailers! Complete basic training and set on the way to master the wide variety of challenges that lie ahead.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 66.6%, Simulation 31.1%, Indie 2.3%
- #26 Scania Truck Driving Simulator
79% matchVery Positive81% of 1,960 reviews2014
Dev: SCS Software
Windows
Median: 42 minMean: 8.2 hrs≥1hr: 44%
Get behind the wheel of one of the most iconic trucks on the road with this highly detailed Scania R-series truck simulation by SCS Software, developers of Euro Truck Simulator 2.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 73.4%, Simulation 25.6%, Indie 1.1%
- #27 18 Wheels of Steel: Extreme Trucker 2
80% matchMostly Positive79% of 165 reviews2015
Dev: SCS SoftwarePub: Cosmi Valusoft
Windows
Median: 30 minMean: 4.0 hrs≥1hr: 40%
Non-Stop Extreme Driving Action! Take this Job and Love It! Build your trucking empire from a single hauler to a vast network of convoys crisscrossing the globe’s most extreme roads. Can you feel the hair on your neck raise?
Why similar: Automobile Sim 73.9%, Simulation 26.1%
- #28 Bus Parking 3D
78% match3 user reviews67% of 3 reviews2022
Dev: Riv3r
Windows
Park something bigger. In this legendary Bus Game, you will drive and park different buses.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 48.5%, Simulation 30.5%, Casual 15.8%, 3D 3.8%, Indie 1.3%
- #29 Border Officer
79% matchMixed57% of 1,356 reviews2019
Dev: Cheesecake Dev
Windows
Median: 1.4 hrsMean: 5.6 hrs≥1hr: 55%
Usually everyone is unemployed here. But by chance you got a job. You'il work for the state.Everyone in your family is sick or unemployed, only you can help them. You're an immigrant officer.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 47.5%, Simulation 39.1%, Action 11.1%, Indie 2.3%
- #30 Obstacle Overdrive
76% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Arcane Ermine
Windows
Cruise through a world of colorful retro inspired toys in Obstacle Overdrive, a cozy off-roading toy car adventure! Navigate fun, challenging courses, tumultuous tumbles, and enjoy the charm of a miniature world where the obstacles are as playful as the ride itself.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 44.8%, Simulation 18.8%, Casual 11.8%, Collectathon 9.4%, Cute 6.4%
- #31 Forklift Simulator 2019
77% matchMixed64% of 80 reviews2020
Dev: Blind Squirrel GamesPub: Blind Squirrel Publishing
Windows
Finally, a truly realistic driving game that also teaches you how to safely operate various types of forklifts.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 58.7%, Simulation 25.2%, Casual 13.1%, Indie 3%
- #32 SMBH : Super Massive Black Hole
75% matchNo user reviews2025
Dev: てづくりギンガ
Windows
This game is a casual single-player experience. Move through vast cosmic landscapes in 3D while collecting characters and items. You're sure to find yourself smiling at the nostalgic sci-fi gimmicks and mechanics. Enjoy a robust sci-fi adventure!
Why similar: Mechs 32.7% ★, Collectathon 22.3%, Sci-fi 14.7%, Science 11.2% ★, Casual 10.8%
- #33 Trucker
77% matchMixed52% of 69 reviews2016
Dev: Play Publishing
Windows
Median: 3.6 hrsMean: 4.4 hrs≥1hr: 97%
Drive big trucks faster than ordinary cars, and be careful, coz you are not alone on the road.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 67.3%, Simulation 20.4%, Action 12.3%
- #34 Bus-Simulator 2012
76% matchMixed44% of 1,055 reviews2013
Dev: TML-StudiosPub: astragon Entertainment
Windows
Median: 1.2 hrsMean: 4.7 hrs≥1hr: 56%
Catch the bus and let it take you to a detailed, virtual world.Are you ready to explore a picturesque German city behind the wheel of a realistically modeled, freely accessible bus? Then take a look at “Bus Simulator 2012” by the well-known developer studio TML!Every technical detail of the original bus has been reproduced true-to-live.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 76.1%, Simulation 23.9%
- #35 Newt's Voyage
74% matchPositive83% of 18 reviews2019
Dev: Gear Learning
Windows · Mac
Join Newt Isaacson, explorer extraordinaire, as he travels from moon to moon in the solar system collecting samples of each one's surface.
Why similar: Simulation 44.9%, Action 29.5%, Casual 25.6%
- #36 Song Samurai
75% match3 user reviews33% of 3 reviews2017
Dev: Jake OverallPub: CodeWorks
Windows
Become the Song Samurai, and accept your sacred oath of defending your dojo. Accept the challenge posed to your land by the Dragon of ice and fire. Take up your swords and fulfill your destiny.
Why similar: Simulation 43.7%, Action 30.2%, Casual 26.1%
- #37 Beachhead 2000
74% matchMixed47% of 96 reviews2017
Dev: Digital Fusion Inc.
Windows
In the immersive world of BeachHead, you assume the role of a lone gunner, the last bastion against an overwhelming onslaught of enemy forces. The stakes are high as you're tasked with defending your post against threats from land, sea, and air.
Why similar: Simulation 43.5%, Action 30.1%, Casual 26.4%
- #38 Avaris 2: The Return of the Empress
73% matchMixed58% of 59 reviews2015
Dev: StudioGIWPub: Zoo Corporation
Windows
Median: 3.4 hrsMean: 3.9 hrs≥1hr: 93%
Check out this battlefield management game from Japanese indie developer Studio GIW. You are the Empress fighting to take back control of the Avaris Empire. Battle by battle as you recover territory, the number of fighters grows to near epic proportions up to 36,000 individual warriors on the battlefield!
Why similar: Simulation 44.9%, Action 29.5%, Casual 25.6%
- #39 Strange and weird museum
73% match2 user reviews50% of 2 reviews2019
Dev: PLAYCASTLE
Windows
The photographer visits the museum where the strange things happen. Take pictures of what is going on in strange and weird places.
Why similar: Simulation 44.3%, Action 29.2%, Casual 26.5%
- #40 Tiger Hunt
73% matchMixed63% of 19 reviews2017
Dev: Digital Fusion Inc.
Windows
Storm the continent of europe during WWII! You break out of normandy into artillery pounding action, menacing mines and a maelstrom of machine gun fire. Your maneuverable M-4 Sherman tank leads the hard-fought hunt for the enemy.
Why similar: Simulation 44.3%, Action 29.2%, Casual 26.5%
- #41 Coaster
72% matchMostly Positive79% of 19 reviews2018
Dev: Monster PawPub: Binarie
Windows
Experience the thrill and sensation of 4 unique roller coaster experiences. Feel the wind rush through your virtual hair as you ride some of the most enjoyable and immersive VR coasters on the market.
Why similar: Simulation 44.3%, Action 29.2%, Casual 26.5%
- #42 Starway Fleet
71% matchMixed69% of 112 reviews2017
Dev: StormCube Games
Windows
Experience the heat of space combat and discover the Universe as a fighter pilot assigned to the fleet. Be the famous fighter ace, let the whole Universe know your name!
Why similar: Simulation 44.3%, Action 31.8%, Casual 24%
- #43 Solar System Journey VR
72% match3 user reviews33% of 3 reviews2017
Dev: Amusitronix
Windows
Race your way through our solar system and be fully immersed as you navigate through the void of space collecting fuel, checkpoints, and exploding asteroids! Challenge your friends for a high score!
Why similar: Simulation 44.3%, Action 29.2%, Casual 26.5%
- #44 Duck Hunting Challenge
71% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2018
Dev: Collision StudiosPub: Boombox
Windows
Duck Hunt Challenge combines classic hunting game elements with engaging play modes to create a unique, fun hunting trip across the US.
Why similar: Simulation 45.5%, Action 28.6%, Casual 25.9%
- #45 Ice Truckers
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Chronos NorthPub: Aerosoft Gmbh
Windows
Take control of powerful trucks on a remote arctic island, and deliver cargo safely to its destination, while facing the harshest weather conditions in this immersive transportation simulation!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 50.5%, Simulation 28.1%, Casual 14.6%, 3D 5%, Physics 1.8%
- #46 Kitty Rescue
70% matchMostly Positive75% of 48 reviews2017
Dev: Mesmerise StudiosPub: Mesmerise Global
Windows
Oh dear, Kitty is always getting herself into a pickle. Luckily, you’re here to save the day. You must defy death to save our careless kitten from the dangers of a construction site, rescuing her from 3 perilous scenarios. Hope you don’t have a problem with heights!
Why similar: Simulation 45.5%, Action 28.6%, Casual 25.9%
- #47 4th of July VR
71% match2 user reviews100% of 2 reviews2017
Dev: Moontower VFX
Windows
It’s the Fourth of July and it is time to shoot off fireworks! Create, perform, and take aim in three engaging modes!
Why similar: Simulation 45.5%, Action 28.6%, Casual 25.9%
- #48 MechaNest
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: PhilBerexPub: Xloron
Windows
Explore Scifi third person action-adventure game MechaNest. City on the planet Merador where the citizens are overthrown by Ai and Mecha's. But be careful MechaNest is full with traps, mazes and vicious Mechanics.
Why similar: Collectathon 27.7%, Mechs 21.9% ★, Robots 12.7%, Sci-fi 11.3%, Futuristic 10%
- #49 Fancy Slingshot VR
70% matchMixed69% of 13 reviews2016
Dev: 哈视奇科技
Windows
Destroy the bottle in a beautiful coffee shop. Twenty different level waiting their challenger. Destroy them all through the slingshot in your hand! All the bottle in the games can be Destroy . Turn around to change mode between Challenge and practice.
Why similar: Simulation 45.5%, Action 28.6%, Casual 25.9%
- #50 Robots Arena Fight
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Hard Shark Games
Windows
Robots Arena Fight: SYSTEM ONLINE. Engage in metallic mayhem. Deploy BULL. Deploy WASP. Lasers, rockets, chaos. Target locked. Smash, blast, dominate. No rules—only steel, fire, and victory. Mission accepted. Combat initiated.
Why similar: Mechs 33.3% ★, Robots 22.1%, Simulation 18.4%, Action 11.1%, Futuristic 9.8%
- #51 GarbageClassification
70% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2019
Dev: 个人
Windows
本游戏可满足大量垃圾分类的需求,涵盖生活中大部分的垃圾,通过与虚拟现实的结合,可更好的、更方便的帮助市民对垃圾的识别,减少现实生活中错误的垃圾投放,让生活更便捷,让环境更美丽。
Why similar: Simulation 45.5%, Action 28.6%, Casual 25.9%
- #52 Good Doggo
69% matchVery Positive81% of 140 reviews2018
Dev: Cozy Game Pals
Windows · Mac · Linux
Median: 1.1 hrsMean: 5.8 hrs≥1hr: 56%
Train your dog in this treat-balancing action game
Why similar: Simulation 44.4%, Action 27.9%, Casual 27.7%
- #53 Car Delivery Man
67% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2023
Dev: Skulfio
Windows
Immerse yourself in the era of the 90s, driving cars of those years. Become a driver who delivers cars to different countries.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 59.6%, Simulation 33.4%, 3D 6.9%
- #54 Mice Crisis
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Xelo Games
Windows
Mice Crisis is a cute and chaotic action game where you play as a heroic cat on a mission to save the town! Hunt down swarms of mischievous mice, smacking corrupted predators, and saving the town in fast paced, adorable action!
Why similar: Cats 21.4%, Simulation 16.9%, Collectathon 16.5%, Casual 12.2%, Action 11.6%
- #55 Panzer Killer
69% matchMixed58% of 24 reviews2017
Dev: Digital Fusion Inc.
Windows
The highly appraised sequel to Tiger Hunt with over 50 new missions! Roll over a decimated Europe during WWII with your american armored division. Fight everything in the German arsenal including the most notorious and lethal tanks such as Tigers and Panthers. Battle through over 50 brand new missions in a fast paced arcade-style shooter.
Why similar: Simulation 45.5%, Action 28.6%, Casual 25.9%
- #56 Engine Simulator
66% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Ektorom Software Inc.
Windows
Engine Simulator allows you to design, simulate and hear your own combustion engines!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 57.7%, Simulation 31.7%, 3D 7.2%, Physics 3.4%
- #57 Nowhere Road
66% matchNo user reviews
Dev: imdo.v
Windows
Nowhere Road is a winter-themed driving and taxi game set in a post-war city. Drive through quiet nights, deliver passengers, and experience a calm, atmospheric world focused on immersion and slow-paced driving rather than speed or competition.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 47.9%, Simulation 24.5%, Collectathon 22.5%, 3D 4.2%, Indie 0.9%
- #58 TransRoad: USA
68% matchMixed52% of 413 reviews2017
Dev: Deck13 HamburgPub: astragon Entertainment
Windows · Mac
Median: 3.2 hrsMean: 6.8 hrs≥1hr: 87%
Manage your very own logistics company, discover the complex world of cross-country haulage and keep the US economy up and running!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 65.2%, Simulation 23%, Casual 11.8%
- #59 Cargo delivery
65% matchMostly Positive75% of 12 reviews2023
Dev: wow wow Games
Windows
In the game, you become a driver of a car that carries various goods to remote villages, located in snowy areas.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 47%, Simulation 29.5%, Casual 16%, 3D 4.1%, Physics 3.4%