- #1 ExoLife Terrarium Simulator
97% matchNo user reviews
Dev: rockingprojects
Windows · Mac · Linux
They hunt, they grow, they change. Care for multiple aliens in a single terrarium, fill it with plants and gear, and keep light and environment in balance. Every reproduction yields Exobiotin, a valuable protein. Keep control, or they may break out.
Why similar: Idler 28.7%, Immersive Sim 27.1%, Nature 18.1%, Management 17.4%, Simulation 8.4%
- #2 在路上 On The Road
96% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Ink Game Studio
Windows
On the Road is a relaxing idle road-trip game that keeps you company while you work or study.Drive a camper van across vast highland landscapes, shaped by changing weather and scenery.Upgrade your vehicle, manage supplies, and capture the journey in your photo album.
Why similar: Idler 31.5%, Automobile Sim 27.8%, Nature 20%, Linear 5.9%, Simulation 5.1%
- #3 Endless Casual Drive
96% matchMixed67% of 27 reviews2024
Dev: MorningHeart
Windows
This is an immersive leisure solo journey. All you have to do is focus on driving and enjoy driving. Slowly gain peace and return to yourself in the white noise brought by the engine and the environment.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 28.2%, Nature 20.5%, Idler 19.9%, Immersive Sim 17.7%, Simulation 8%
- #4 Dropshipping Simulator
95% matchMixed61% of 117 reviews2021
Dev: IronyDev
Windows
Dropshipping Simulator, sell to customers by buying products cheaply! Earn money by making smart cyrptocoin investments! Decorate your house any way you want! and eat a good meal!
Why similar: Idler 33.9%, Immersive Sim 26.5%, Management 15.9%, Simulation 9.8%, Casual 5.6%
- #5 Parking Garage Simulator
94% matchMixed42% of 192 reviews2026
Dev: Root GamesPub: Red Axe Games
Windows
Build a parking business from scratch! Welcome cars as a valet, collect payments, expand your garage, and ensure security. Welcome to Parking Simulator with realistic mechanics and the chaos of city life!
Why similar: Automobile Sim 27.9%, Immersive Sim 18.4%, Trading 17.4%, Simulation 14.4%, Management 11.6%
- #6 Car Rental Simulator: Prologue - Early Days
93% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Play2Chill S.A.Pub: Garage Monkeys
Windows
Free introduction to the full Car Rental Simulator game puts you behind the desk of a small-town rental office in Winston Springs. Manage customers, grow your fleet, and deal with surprises along the way
Why similar: Trading 29.1%, Automobile Sim 24.3%, Immersive Sim 20%, Management 12.6%, Simulation 7.9%
- #7 Caramel Creek
92% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Biruk Okami
Windows
Tired of city life, you move to the countryside of Caramel Creek to build a cozy café by the river. Grow coffee, befriend locals, decorate your space, and create a place worth coming back to—every single day!
Why similar: Trading 33.6%, Idler 33.2%, Management 19%, Simulation 8.2%, 2D 2.9%
- #8 Firefly Haven
91% matchPositive88% of 40 reviews2025
Dev: JAsul
Windows
Firefly Haven is an incremental, chill and short cozy game about catching bugs, collecting trophies, traveling to new locations and achieving greatness!
Why similar: Idler 32.9%, Nature 20.7%, Management 19.7%, Point & Click 9%, Simulation 7.9%
- #9 Lint
91% matchMixed67% of 27 reviews2026
Dev: tankpillow
Windows
Lint is a minimalist idle game where lint builds up the longer you stay. Collect it, upgrade your production, and turn tiny dust balls into an unstoppable fluff empire.
Why similar: Idler 35.3%, Trading 19.2%, Point & Click 14.7%, Simulation 11%, Casual 11%
- #10 A Game About Having A Job
90% matchNo user reviews
Dev: FlaotSoft Ltd.
Windows
The money management simulation where you work, trade, bank, and gamble in a procedurally generated world. Browse the job market, gain skills through employment, buy stocks, trade options, place risky bets, and hit it big in a world that's different every time you play.
Why similar: Idler 26.6%, Immersive Sim 23.4%, Trading 21.1%, Management 11.9%, Point & Click 5.9%
- #11 Casting Clicker
89% matchMostly Positive79% of 68 reviews2025
Dev: Inspite
Windows
Build your own casting empire! Interview unique anime-style girls, view their spicy uncensored photos, and shoot stylish films. Manage your studio, follow trends, and grow your fame. Flirty, strategic, and full of personality — no pressure, just pleasure.
Why similar: Trading 31.5%, Immersive Sim 23.6%, Management 17.9%, Point & Click 9.9%, Linear 6.5%
- #12 Coconut CEO Idle
89% matchPositive100% of 10 reviews2025
Dev: grantlerr
Windows
Build a coconut empire in this short incremental game! Gather coconuts, hire workers, and buy upgrades to transform your coconut startup into a coconut empire!
Why similar: Idler 52%, Management 29%, Simulation 9.5%, Casual 9.5%
- #13 Flourish
88% matchMostly Positive75% of 48 reviews2026
Dev: FireOwl Games
Windows · Mac · Linux
Find your rhythm in the cycle of the garden: prune to gather, water to renew, and trade your clippings for deep-rooted progression.
Why similar: Idler 43.9%, Nature 29.7%, Simulation 10%, Casual 8%, 2D 3.5%
- #14 Valet Simulator: Parking & Business
87% matchVery Positive83% of 90 reviews2025
Dev: ToD Game Studio
Windows
Run your own valet company. Start as a beginner and rise to become the best in town. Park cars with precision, deliver exceptional customer service, and expand your business. Compete with rival valet services and dominate valet market with your top-tier valet skills.
Why similar: Trading 26.8%, Automobile Sim 24.2%, Immersive Sim 21.8%, Management 13.7%, Simulation 8.3%
- #15 Fish Fortune
86% match4 user reviews75% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: Kiba Frost
Windows
A cozy idle aquarium game with fully animated fish that grow and earn money even while you’re away. Buy fish packs, discover rare variants, fill your collection, upgrade tanks and food, and play actively or passively as you expand to new regions by improving each area.
Why similar: Idler 30.9%, Immersive Sim 22.3%, Nature 15.1%, Management 13.9%, Simulation 8%
- #16 Bird Watching Simulator
85% matchVery Positive88% of 52 reviews2026
Dev: JustJeffPub: The Reef Production Co.
Windows
An avid bird watching simulator with realistic watching mechanics. Grab your binoculars and build your attention span, Bird Watching Simulator is an unbelievably relaxing and interactive game that draws you so close to nature, it feels like you're apart of it.
Why similar: Immersive Sim 35.8%, Nature 29.7%, Point & Click 15.3%, Simulation 11.3%, Casual 3.6%
- #17 Console Store Simulator
84% match9 user reviews75% of 20 reviews2026
Dev: Bear GamesPub: PlayWay S.A.
Windows
In Console Store Simulator, turn a small second-hand game shop into the most popular store in town. Buy and sell games and consoles, negotiate with customers, repair devices, open a game café, and grow your business with black market opportunities.
Why similar: Trading 34.5%, Immersive Sim 29.6%, Management 19.6%, Simulation 9%, Casual 5%
- #18 Zen Beauty
86% match3 user reviews67% of 3 reviews2024
Dev: AquaStudioPub: LotusPlay
Windows
Beautiful women in swimsuits, a picturesque courtyard, and flashes of inspiration captured from the mind—this is an idle game that requires minimal operation. A wide variety of decorations and outfits can be purchased using points earned through idling.
Why similar: Idler 38.4%, Nature 23.8%, Immersive Sim 20.5%, Casual 9.1%, Point & Click 7.8%
- #19 T-rarium
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Trainwreck Studios
Windows
A hand-drawn virtual pet! Meet your own dumb little dinosaur and let him pester you while you work or doomscroll!
Why similar: Idler 39.4%, Nature 25.5%, Point & Click 12.2%, Simulation 10.2%, Casual 5.7%
- #20 Firewheels Shop Simulator
82% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Alkame Games
Windows
Co-Op Firewheels Shop Simulator lets you manage a diecast model store. Organize shelves, assist customers, and expand your shop in a detailed, realistic world. Hunt for rare and chase cars, trade with customers, and grow your diecast empire.
Why similar: Trading 29.3%, Immersive Sim 23.3%, Automobile Sim 20.8%, Management 16%, Simulation 5.4%
- #21 Farming & Defense - Farmfence
82% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Alkame Games
Windows
Supermarket Simulator meets Farming Simulator—with zombies. Build your store, grow crops, and survive nightly undead attacks in this fast-paced farming defence game. Harvest, sell, and fight to keep your business and farm alive.
Why similar: Trading 31.6%, Immersive Sim 22%, Management 18.3%, Nature 15.6%, Simulation 7%
- #22 Race Manager
83% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2023
Dev: Houbi Game
Windows · Linux
Become a race director, create your team, choose your drivers and collaborators, manage your team, participate in race weekends
Why similar: Immersive Sim 31.9%, Automobile Sim 29.8%, Management 22.3%, Simulation 13.2%, Indie 2.2%
- #23 Timeline Keepers
81% match4 user reviews75% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: Two Pixels
Windows
Manage heroes across the timeline while you do other things in this idle game that sits at the corner of the screen.
Why similar: Idler 55.7%, Management 23.6%, Casual 11.3%, Pixel Graphics 6.2%, Indie 1.7%
- #24 Sauna Simulator
81% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: S1NGLE
Windows
Run your own sauna: buy a room, equip it with an oven and start earning money from it. Hire employees, ensure safety and, of course, have fun!
Why similar: Trading 36.3%, Immersive Sim 27.3%, Management 23%, Simulation 11.1%, Indie 1.2%
- #25 Farmer's Shop Simulator: Prologue
80% matchMixed65% of 37 reviews2024
Dev: SleepySealsGames
Windows
Start restoring your old family farm and managing your new shop in this free prologue. Grow your crops, sell your goods, and get the taste of what's to come in the full version. Did we already mention it's free?
Why similar: Idler 26.3%, Trading 26.1%, Immersive Sim 22.6%, Management 16.4%, Simulation 5.3%
- #26 Pawnshop 90s
79% matchNo user reviews
Dev: RockGame S.A.
Windows
Become the proud owner of a pawnshop in 1990's Poland. Upgrade your shop. Obtain and sell various items in (mostly) legal way. Meet interesting (and suspicious) people. Be a true businessman and don't let anything stop you from achieving success!
Why similar: Trading 43.2%, Management 24.4%, Simulation 16.9%, Immersive Sim 9.6%, Casual 3.3%
- #27 Molo's Revenge
79% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2024
Dev: MelonStudios
Windows · Mac
Molo's Revenge is the incremental journey of a mole dragon to avenge his village by doing the thing he does best: Digging.
Why similar: Idler 56.3%, Simulation 19.1%, Casual 10.8%, 2D 5.9%, Pixel Graphics 5.2%
- #28 SYSADMIN Hell
78% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Heretic Media
Windows
You're the sole sysadmin for a company scaling from 10 to 100,000 employees. Everything breaks. Everything. Automate your way out of ticket hell or watch it all burn.
Why similar: Idler 30%, Immersive Sim 29.2%, Management 17.2%, Point & Click 8.3%, Simulation 6.9%
- #29 Pediluvium
78% matchPositive90% of 10 reviews2025
Dev: Alice Karaush
Windows
A short meditative journey of feet gently stirring the water, surrounded by shifting landscapes and soothing sounds.
Why similar: Idler 45.7%, Nature 20.8%, Simulation 14.2%, Immersive Sim 12.8%, Colorful 3.4%
- #30 Plant Nursery Simulator
75% matchVery Positive95% of 319 reviews2026
Dev: Robot Assembly
Windows
Run your own cozy Plant Nursery in this relaxing sim. Grow crops, stock shelves, and help customers. Expand with greenhouses, hire staff, and decorate your dream shop. Perfect for fans of wholesome farming and sim games.
Why similar: Trading 35.6%, Management 23.7%, Immersive Sim 18.4%, Simulation 16.7%, Casual 4.4%
- #31 Sushi Idle Clicker
76% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2026
Dev: Buya Studios
Windows
A relaxing idle/clicker game where you manage your own sushi restaurant. Start with basic ingredients, hire chefs to automate production, and upgrade your recipes. Reach level 7 to perform a rebirth and click your way to building the world's largest sushi empire.
Why similar: Idler 28.7%, Immersive Sim 20.1%, Simulation 14.3%, Point & Click 13.5%, Casual 8.3%
- #32 Totally Legit Wheeler Seller
77% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Sombrero Labs
Windows
Run your own shady car lot! Buy cheap, patch it up and flip for profit. Haggle prices, roll back the mileage and become the king of sketchy deals. If you’ve ever dreamed of selling a rust bucket for a grand, this is your moment.
Why similar: Trading 33.4%, Automobile Sim 22.9%, Immersive Sim 20.9%, Simulation 11.1%, Management 7.8%
- #33 勇闯华强北
76% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: 半醉的蜗牛
Windows
你今年22岁,大学刚毕业,但是马上就失业了。 你决定,带着大学4年积累下来的18000元, 冲进华强北,当一回背包客。 泪水打湿猪脚饭,发誓要赚一百万!
Why similar: Trading 37.6%, Immersive Sim 31.5%, Management 9.9%, Casual 6.5%, Simulation 4.8%
- #34 Croissant
77% matchMixed63% of 145 reviews2024
Dev: Limsod Games
Windows
Croissant is a clicker game, click the Croissant to gain even more Croissant and become the best in the leaderboard! By spending time on the game, or by clicking on the Croissant, you can obtain skins. Collect them or trade them to expand your collection.
Why similar: Idler 33.4%, Immersive Sim 18.6%, Management 17.7%, Point & Click 13.1%, Simulation 9.4%
- #35 星域商旅
75% matchNo user reviews
Dev: 沉默的二刺螈
Windows
Combining elements from the Age of Discovery trade, idle combat, strategic choices,character development, engage in trading, technological research, demon hunting, caravan dispatch, town patrols, workshop cultivation, and more to acquire various resources, upgrades, bonuses, challenging the endless
Why similar: Trading 39.1%, Idler 39%, Simulation 13%, Casual 4.8%, 2D 2.5%
- #36 Veiled Vents
73% match2 user reviews100% of 2 reviews2026
Dev: Tav MelancholyPub: TMC Studios
Windows
Keep an ancient megabuilding alive and thriving with the help of VENTBA !
Why similar: Idler 30.8%, Immersive Sim 27.9%, Management 19.4%, Point & Click 11.5%, Simulation 5.2%
- #37 Car Carrier Simulator
74% matchNo user reviews
Dev: GameFormatic S.A.Pub: PlayWay S.A.
Windows
Transport vehicles across cities while managing your time efficiently. Carefully load and unload cars and navigate through challenging routes. Earn money, hire employees, upgrade your truck, tackle increasingly complex missions. Experience realistic driving mechanics and dynamic weather conditions!
Why similar: Immersive Sim 32.6%, Management 23.8%, Automobile Sim 21.7%, Simulation 18.7%, 2D 2.6%
- #38 Rusty Junkyard Simulator
74% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Alice Games
Windows
Collect junk cars, dismantle them for parts, and restore them to their former glory. Experience the thrill of transforming rusty vehicles into valuable assets, selling them for profit, or racing your restored cars. Turn rust into riches and build your reputation as a top car restorer and racer!
Why similar: Trading 26.1%, Automobile Sim 25%, Immersive Sim 20.2%, Management 15.3%, Simulation 9%
- #39 Trade Tycoon Life Simulator
73% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2025
Dev: Reme Games
Windows
Start from nothing and build your own shop! Buy and sell goods, grow your business, join warehouse battles, upgrade your store, and explore the city with fishing and delivery. Become the king of trade!
Why similar: Trading 24.9%, Automobile Sim 21.4%, Immersive Sim 18.4%, Idler 13.7%, Nature 11.3%
- #40 Train Planet
72% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Fishing Planet LLC.
Windows
Welcome to Train Planet, the ultimate locomotion simulation game that allows you to immerse yourself in the captivating world of trains! Get ready to experience the thrill of being a train operator as you embark on a journey across a vast and diverse virtual landscape.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 36.1%, Immersive Sim 30.1%, Simulation 19.1%, Management 14.1%, Singleplayer 0.7%
- #41 Taskbar Looters
73% matchPositive90% of 10 reviews2025
Dev: B52
Windows
Taskbar Looters is a simple idle game where animal looters collect treasures on your desktop while you focus on other tasks.
Why similar: Idler 52.3%, Nature 25.3%, Casual 9.9%, Pixel Graphics 5.5%, 2D 3.3%
- #42 Cube Game Server Boss
71% match3 user reviews33% of 3 reviews2025
Dev: froggyrs
Windows
Feel the thrill of running you own cube game server! Experience the journey of building your server from the ground up by upgrading gamemodes, hiring staff, and more!
Why similar: Idler 48.9%, Management 27.5%, Simulation 16.5%, 2D 4.8%, Indie 1.5%
- #43 Mushroom Clicker
69% matchVery Positive95% of 75 reviews2025
Dev: Wizard Shrimp Games
Windows
An Idle Incremental Clicker game with cosy magical vibes. You are the newest Mushroom Wizard Initiate 🧙♂️ Cast spells 🪄 harvest mushrooms 🍄 and level up to become more powerful! Hire little creatures 🐿️ to help you harvest and unlock different types of shrooms and skills!
Why similar: Idler 38.6%, Nature 26.7%, Simulation 11.2%, Casual 7%, Point & Click 5.4%
- #44 Storage Hustle
72% matchMostly Positive71% of 1,530 reviews2023
Dev: Broken Clock
Windows
Median: 4.4 hrsMean: 7.8 hrs≥1hr: 82%
Storage Hustle is a Simulation RPG where you go into storage auctions to buy different mysterious storages. Discover and sell many items, join Yard Sales and haggle your way for profit!
Why similar: Trading 32.5%, Immersive Sim 22.4%, Automobile Sim 21.7%, Management 12.4%, Simulation 6.9%
- #45 Vanlife Camping Simulator
70% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Warlock Arts
Windows
Embark on a road trip adventure. Design, customize, and drive your dream van across breathtaking landscapes. Experience the freedom of van life as you choose your path, from serene national parks to bustling city campsites. Manage resources, tackle challenges, and create memories under the stars.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 29.7%, Immersive Sim 29.4%, Nature 24.9%, Simulation 10.1%, Casual 5.6%
- #46 Cyber Fish King
70% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: Cyber Fish
Windows · Mac
Cyber Fish King is a relaxing, stress-free idle game. A compact game that sits at the bottom of your screen so you can take a quick breather while handling other tasks! Raise digital fish and enjoy a cyber life!
Why similar: Idler 33.1%, Management 19.8%, Immersive Sim 18.6%, Point & Click 11.3%, Simulation 7.1%
- #47 Pozionista
70% matchNo user reviews2029
Dev: Piccolo Mago
Windows
Creates potions with plants gathered in the woods, discover new ways to make potions and sell those potions to stores
Why similar: Trading 41%, Management 22.6%, Immersive Sim 11.1%, Simulation 10.3%, Nature 9.2%
- #48 Ride Hailing Simulator
71% matchMixed50% of 20 reviews2024
Dev: KUOKUO
Windows
Come and experience the feeling of a ride hailing driver, listening to orders, running orders, and charging new energy vehicles! Complete the task list, look at the speedometer, listen to music, and enjoy leisure time!
Why similar: Idler 31.5%, Automobile Sim 21.4%, Immersive Sim 17.4%, Simulation 15.8%, Casual 8%
- #49 Beat Around The Bush
69% matchVery Positive89% of 700 reviews2025
Dev: JustJeffPub: The Reef Production Co.
Windows
Beat Around the Bush is a series done over YouTube shorts where the top comment got the next addition to the game. Beat Around the Bush is a game where your primary goal is to Beat around the Bush. Once you do, you did it. You won. Therefore, there's no more reason to keep playing this game.
Why similar: Idler 40.1%, Immersive Sim 29.7%, Point & Click 18%, Casual 11.3%, Singleplayer 0.9%
- #50 Dropper Factory
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Bow Pixel
Windows
First-person 3D clicker about developing a cube factory: start generators, upgrade production, increase cube value, and automate your progress.
Why similar: Automobile Sim 33.1%, Immersive Sim 26.8%, Simulation 17.7%, Point & Click 15.4%, Linear 5.2%
- #51 Pineapple
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: SortaSmartDev
Windows
Click the Pineapple and collect them all!
Why similar: Trading 39.2%, Idler 34.1%, Point & Click 12.3%, Casual 6.1%, Linear 3.6%
- #52 Pharmacist Simulator
67% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: mad turtle studios
Windows · Mac
Build and manage your own pharmacy from the ground up. Stock shelves, serve customers, handle daily operations, and grow your business in a detailed and immersive simulation experience.
Why similar: Trading 36.5%, Management 23.7%, Immersive Sim 19.5%, Simulation 16.1%, Casual 1.7%
- #53 Lemon
69% matchMixed50% of 82 reviews2024
Dev: DZ Interactive
Windows · Linux
In the ever expanding cosmos of the known universe, in the slimmest of slivers, the confines of the confines, there is only... Lemon. Join the lemon brotherhood with a lemon dropped every 30 minutes, from heroes in mighty sagas, to far-reaching materials beyond the fabric of reality.
Why similar: Idler 45.6%, Trading 34.4%, Casual 12.2%, Simulation 6.9%, Singleplayer 0.9%
- #54 Lotto.exe
66% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: ChimpWithAComputer
Windows
"99% of gamblers quit right before they hit it big. This game is for the other 1%." The ultimate test of human stubbornness. Lotto.exe isn't a "game" in the traditional sense. It is a simulation of a lottery draw designed to determine exactly how much your time is worth to you.
Why similar: Idler 51%, Simulation 25%, Casual 14.9%, 2D 5.7%, Indie 2%
- #55 Car Dealer Simulator
65% matchVery Positive89% of 9,783 reviews2025
Dev: Garage Monkeys
Windows
Median: 13.4 hrsMean: 21.7 hrs≥1hr: 93%
Uncover a goldmine in the used car market! Sniff out deals, buy low, modify, and sell high. Your journey from amateur grease monkey to car dealer magnate awaits. How fast will you rise in this lucrative venture?
Why similar: Trading 30.4%, Automobile Sim 23.7%, Immersive Sim 18.9%, Management 14%, Simulation 7.6%
- #56 My Universe - Fashion Boutique
71% matchMixed57% of 47 reviews2020
Dev: Black Sheep StudioPub: Microids
Windows · Mac
YOUR SHOP, YOUR RULES, YOUR SIGNATURE !
Why similar: Trading 46.6%, Management 18.6%, Simulation 16.6%, Casual 11.1%, Colorful 6%
- #57 Clickoin
67% matchMixed60% of 30 reviews2025
Dev: kee10roll
Windows
Click your way through Clickoin - a sleek clicker game where every coin press brings unique skins! Earn up to 4 steam drops per hour, unlock stunning visuals, and grow your collection with clever in-game mechanics.
Why similar: Idler 39.3%, Trading 20.9%, Point & Click 14.9%, Linear 7.5%, Casual 6.2%
- #58 Fun Center Simulator
66% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Born In Garage
Windows
Create your own fun center! Arcades, video games, cinema — it’s all in your hands. Sell snacks&drinks, make popcorn, and delight your visitors. Build the coolest entertainment center around!
Why similar: Trading 37.9%, Immersive Sim 24.4%, Management 21.1%, Simulation 10.7%, Casual 4.1%
- #59 渔舟录
66% matchNo user reviews
Dev: SENYUStudio
Windows
《渔家录》是一个模拟经营结合了轻度求生的游戏,玩家模拟角色渔娘或者渔郎,接取小镇中客人的订单,并驾驶自己的小舟运送到其他水乡城镇。游戏采用水墨以及国风工笔画的融合画风,给玩家展现了一个静谧美好的水乡世界。
Why similar: Idler 31.2%, Immersive Sim 26.5%, Nature 22%, Linear 7.1%, Simulation 6.5%