- #1 Lysoria: The Settler's Path
97% match4 user reviews50% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: Brandon Williams
Windows
Shape the destiny of your settlement in Lysoria: The Settlers Path. Build, upgrade, and manage resources as you guide your people through challenges and growth. Unlock new technologies, assign workers, and expand your village into a thriving kingdom in this strategic city-builder.
Why similar: Colony Sim 23.2%, City Builder 20.2%, Incremental 18.2%, Idler 16.9%, Point & Click 9.3%
- #2 Paradise Architect: Idle Tycoon
96% matchMixed69% of 13 reviews2023
Dev: zzeerr
Windows
Click to get money. Build buildings, develop the city infrastructure to increase passive income. Keep the infrastructure of the city in working condition by completing quests on time and get bonuses.
Why similar: City Builder 19.3%, Colony Sim 19.2%, Idler 17.7%, Incremental 15%, Building 7.5%
- #3 Paragon Pioneers 2
95% matchVery Positive93% of 57 reviews2024
Dev: Tobias Arlt
Windows · Mac · Linux
Dive into the captivating world of Paragon Pioneers 2, an engaging city-building idle game filled with extensive content promising months of immersive gameplay. Even with limited playtime, you can delve deep into this simulation, experimenting with various strategies to enhance your realm.
Why similar: Colony Sim 25.6%, City Builder 20.2%, Idler 15.5%, Building 7.6%, Simulation 7%
- #4 Fill Up The Hole
94% matchVery Positive91% of 1,109 reviews2025
Dev: Fluffy Lotus
Windows
Median: 3.4 hrsMean: 4.4 hrs≥1hr: 89%
Turn trash into cash in a dystopian world! Fill Up The Hole is a short incremental game where you build a city, automate garbage production, and toss it into a magical hole for profit.
Why similar: Colony Sim 21.6%, Incremental 20.4%, City Builder 18.7%, Idler 16.7%, Building 8.8%
- #5 Resource chill
94% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Asfar GAMES
Windows · Linux
A cozy idle automation game about building tiny factories, unlocking upgrades, and relaxing while your machines work overtime. Progress has never been this chill.
Why similar: Colony Sim 21.7%, City Builder 18.6%, Incremental 16.2%, Idler 15.4%, Building 7.3%
- #6 Passive Income
93% matchNo user reviews
Dev: ReallyMushroom
Windows · Mac
Passive Income is an idle-ish simulator game where you can build houses, get upgrades, and gain money over time! Chill out and relax as you rip rent out of little cartoon people's pockets. Grow your passive income now!
Why similar: Incremental 23.6%, Colony Sim 20.2%, City Builder 16.7%, Idler 12.1%, Cartoon 8.2%
- #7 Shroomy Garden
92% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Magicwood Labs
Windows · Mac
Design a beautiful garden filled with decorations, colors, and charm. Attract lovable Shroomies who wander in, settle down, and make your garden feel like home. A calm, cozy game about creativity and quiet joy.
Why similar: City Builder 20.9%, Incremental 18.2%, Simulation 12.9%, Idler 12.4%, Building 11.8%
- #8 Bonfires of Azure
91% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Pixel Cloud
Windows
Embark on a cozy journey to settle and thrive on floating islands in the remnants of a ruptured world. Grow your village, manage resources, and become the renowned pioneer of the clouds. A relaxing city-building experience where you build and optimize your serene sanctuary in the skies.
Why similar: Colony Sim 27.7%, City Builder 22.9%, Idler 18.5%, Top-Down 7%, Strategy 6.9%
- #9 Hollowforge
91% matchNo user reviews
Dev: pixelwide
Windows
Manage an expedition of dwarves as they build out a colony under the surface in this incremental game. Assign your dwarves to farm food, forge runes, hunt trolls and mine ore!
Why similar: Colony Sim 29%, Incremental 16.1%, Idler 15.8%, Strategy 9.9%, Minimalist 6.5%
- #10 Little Porp
90% matchNo user reviews
Dev: VuVuu
Windows
A Little Village or þorp Builder, which takes place on a 32x32 tile map. Use the resources available to keep your villagers warm, fed, and hydrated for as long as you can. When the little ice ages come, you must manage your resources wisely to prevent a very cold sad death of your villagers.
Why similar: Colony Sim 32.6%, City Builder 30.2%, Strategy 10.6%, Top-Down 7.4%, Building 7.1%
- #11 Outlands
89% matchNo user reviews
Dev: HugMeGames
Windows
Build, Upgrade, Reset, Repeat
Why similar: Colony Sim 26.9%, City Builder 23.3%, Simulation 11.7%, Strategy 10.1%, Exploration 6.2%
- #12 Cum Clicker
89% matchVery Positive88% of 92 reviews2023
Dev: SPRITE!!
Windows
Do you ever fantasize about having a lot of cum? Yes? Well this is your chance! Click cum, collect cum, upgrade cum. Be patient and you will have all the cum you can ever ask for!
Why similar: Idler 15.7%, Incremental 15.5%, Point & Click 12.1%, Cartoon 11.1%, Arcade 8.6%
- #13 World Cruise Story
88% matchVery Positive96% of 74 reviews2022
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Captain a luxury cruise liner, sailing the entire world while entertaining VIPs!
Why similar: Colony Sim 30.4%, City Builder 17.7%, Simulation 13%, Strategy 11.3%, Casual 7.4%
- #14 Skyberry Garden
86% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Catculus
Windows · Mac
Skyberry Garden is a cozy sky colony sim where space is your most precious resource. Design a thriving sanctuary on floating islands, master complex production chains, and harness ancient magic. Can you build a lasting home above the clouds?
Why similar: Colony Sim 33%, City Builder 28.8%, Strategy 10.9%, Exploration 10.2%, Casual 4.9%
- #15 Outta This Kingdom
87% matchPositive90% of 10 reviews2020
Dev: Alawar SouthpointPub: Alawar Entertainment
Windows
Outta This Kingdom combines awesome time management fun with a kicking fantasy twist to create casual gameplay the whole family will love! Rebuild a kingdom warring factions tore apart as you defeat Land Elementals, outwit an Ice Queen and go toe-to-toe with Gingerbread Barbarians!
Why similar: Colony Sim 21.1%, City Builder 16.3%, Point & Click 10.4%, Building 9.4%, Cartoon 9.4%
- #16 Tropical Resort Story
86% matchVery Positive92% of 180 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Median: 4.0 hrsMean: 14.2 hrs≥1hr: 57%
It's vacation time! Try your hand at managing a lush tropical resort!
Why similar: Colony Sim 30.3%, City Builder 23.3%, Simulation 9.6%, Building 7.7%, Casual 5.5%
- #17 Simultree
83% matchVery Positive86% of 118 reviews2026
Dev: PIPAPOUPub: Coduck Studio
Windows
Simultree is a short incremental game about monitoring life simulations. You're a scientist who runs life simulations in order to gain points to spend in a big skill tree.
Why similar: Colony Sim 23.8%, Idler 17%, Incremental 16.5%, Minimalist 7.6%, Simulation 7.3%
- #18 Whomers Ate My Lawn!
85% matchNo user reviews2025
Dev: Dreaming Saints
Windows
Dive into a simple yet charming world where curious Whomers creatures dig, eat, and survive in a compact 64x64 grid. This minimalistic simulation offers a peaceful experience of watching and interacting with small digital beings as they go about their lives
Why similar: Colony Sim 23.2%, Incremental 12.2%, Idler 12.1%, Point & Click 9.7%, Simulation 6.1%
- #19 Spirit & Stone
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Garden Gate Interactive, LLC
Windows
A kingdom's open ended journey from a small village to a patchwork of bustling castles. Build your kingdom block by block. Explore the world, grow your industries, and watch your citizens thrive in your creations. Do it your way - there are no wrong choices.
Why similar: Colony Sim 28.4%, City Builder 24.6%, Simulation 12.3%, Strategy 10.6%, Immersive Sim 10.2%
- #20 dEskape
84% matchMixed59% of 87 reviews2023
Dev: The Evergloom Team
Windows
'dEskape' is a base-building game which sits across the bottom of your desktop allowing you to work, browse, or watch something else while you play. It's idle when you like and active when you want.
Why similar: Colony Sim 23%, City Builder 19%, Idler 15.2%, Incremental 15.1%, Building 9.4%
- #21 GLONK
82% matchVery Positive92% of 316 reviews2025
Dev: Mistical Studios
Windows
A short incremental game about feeding Glonk! Make Glonk bigger, get more money, and explore the skill tree to upgrade your abilities, and get more Glonks!
Why similar: Incremental 22.7%, Idler 21.8%, Arcade 11.2%, Simulation 7%, Pixel Graphics 6.5%
- #22 Touching Grass Simulator
82% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Maffin
Windows
A relaxing and humorous incremental game where you grow, upgrade, and automate a sprawling field of grass. Plant seeds, watch your lawn flourish, and become the ultimate Grass Tycoon in this chill and oddly satisfying simulation!
Why similar: City Builder 17%, Incremental 11.6%, Idler 11.1%, Immersive Sim 10.3%, Point & Click 9%
- #23 Mine It Down
81% matchPositive82% of 11 reviews2025
Dev: Topito Games
Windows · Linux
Mine It Down is an incremental game about mining an evil wall inspired by other games like (the) Gnorp Apologue and Tower Wizard. Chip away at the wall with the mouse first, hire masons to work that rock and build different buildings to grow your rock-destroying arsenal.
Why similar: Colony Sim 30.1%, Idler 21.2%, Incremental 10%, Minimalist 8.2%, Arcade 8.1%
- #24 Merge Cats Idle Evolution
81% match1 user reviews0% of 1 reviews2025
Dev: Alice Games
Windows
Merge adorable cats to reach higher levels, unlock special collectible felines, and trade or sell them on the Steam Community Market. Build your perfect cat collection through simple, satisfying merge gameplay with full Steam Inventory and Achievements support.
Why similar: Incremental 13.7%, Idler 13.6%, Point & Click 12.2%, Cartoon 9.6%, Arcade 8.9%
- #25 Super Kanko Town
80% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Pinteliko
Windows · Mac · Linux
Super Kanko Town is one part incremental game, one part city-building simulator, and one part reflection on the perversities of mass tourism. Raze gardens, rice fields, and village homes. Build capsule hotels, convenience stores, and gourmet sushi bars. Fight monsters, silence protesters, have fun.
Why similar: City Builder 24.1%, Idler 12.9%, Simulation 11.3%, Strategy 9.9%, Minimalist 9%
- #26 Founders Legacy
79% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Asfar GAMESPub: Astrolabe Games
Windows · Linux
A relaxing idle-colony builder that sits at the bottom of your screen while you do other things,Design Your Ultimate colony.
Why similar: Colony Sim 23.3%, City Builder 19.2%, Idler 14.4%, Building 8%, Simulation 5.9%
- #27 Kinlings
79% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Gobbo
Windows
Craft your tale in a whimsical fantasy world. Shape a charming city, fulfill Kinlings' needs, and watch their unique stories unfold. Explore, quest, farm, and build. Experience the enchantment of Kinlings.
Why similar: Colony Sim 26.9%, City Builder 22.1%, Building 9.7%, Immersive Sim 8.5%, Simulation 6.2%
- #28 Bit Mine Clicker
78% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Arcade Storm Studio
Windows
Bit-Mine Clicker is an incremental mining game where you click to earn BIT, build automatic miners, upgrade your grid, react to changing market prices, and defend your base. Catch helpful bonuses, avoid dangerous traps, unlock talents, and turn a single coin into a powerful BIT empire
Why similar: Incremental 18.9%, Idler 18.6%, City Builder 16.7%, Point & Click 12.7%, Arcade 8.1%
- #29 ULTRATAP
76% matchVery Positive93% of 57 reviews2026
Dev: luckyape
Windows
ULTRATAP is an incremental game about defeating monsters and bosses, getting stronger and enjoying the process. Buy upgrades, complete quests and equip powerful items.
Why similar: Incremental 24.5%, Idler 22.5%, Simulation 11.5%, Strategy 11%, Minimalist 8.3%
- #30 Factory Town Idle
77% matchVery Positive91% of 1,215 reviews2024
Dev: Erik Asmussen
Windows · Mac
Median: 14.0 hrsMean: 73.6 hrs≥1hr: 80%
An entire town builder experience packed into a living spreadsheet. Build housing, assign workers, then craft and sell a huge variety of items to level up your town and expand your civilization across the world!
Why similar: Colony Sim 20.8%, City Builder 18%, Idler 16.3%, Incremental 15.1%, Minimalist 9.8%
- #31 Zoo Park Story
77% matchVery Positive89% of 114 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Well, what are you waiting for? Build a top-ranking zoo, set social media ablaze, and show the world your wild side!
Why similar: Colony Sim 29%, City Builder 20.6%, Simulation 8.3%, Strategy 7.4%, Building 6.8%
- #32 Click to Civ
75% matchMostly Positive78% of 40 reviews2025
Dev: Phantom Realm
Windows
Smash ancient rocks, collect civilization badges, and grow your hometown into a thriving hub of progress. This simple yet addictive incremental game with active clicking guides humanity from caves to the stars.
Why similar: Incremental 20.4%, Idler 16%, Point & Click 15.1%, Arcade 11.6%, Colony Sim 10.4%
- #33 Cats to the Moon
76% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Mateusk2m
Windows
Cats to the Moon is a short incremental game about leading a nation of silly cats as they attempt to become the first ever to land on the moon. Explore space, build your city, and most importantly, reach a place no other cat has ever been.
Why similar: Idler 20.1%, Incremental 18%, Point & Click 11.8%, Simulation 8.2%, Strategy 7.9%
- #34 Click-A-Duck
74% match2 user reviews50% of 2 reviews2026
Dev: Altered Games
Windows
Turn a small duck pond into a chaotic, self-growing duck empire. Click, upgrade, and automate your way to explosive, unstoppable growth.
Why similar: Colony Sim 24%, Incremental 17.4%, Idler 16.4%, Immersive Sim 15.1%, Point & Click 8.1%
- #35 The Beardless Wizard
78% matchPositive90% of 20 reviews2020
Dev: Alawar NorthPub: Alawar Entertainment
Windows
An evil scientist has kidnapped a kind, old wizard! As the magician's young apprentice, you might not have a beard, but don't let that stop you from saving his wrinkled skin! The journey will be fraught with obstacles but also filled with laughs.
Why similar: Colony Sim 25.9%, City Builder 19.1%, Building 11.4%, Point & Click 11.3%, Top-Down 7.3%
- #36 Tenfold
75% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Germie
Windows
Tenfold lets you build the ultimate village: command your villagers, gather resources, upgrade skills and equipment, and create a thriving settlement that never stands still.
Why similar: Colony Sim 20.9%, Idler 17.8%, City Builder 15.9%, Point & Click 13.2%, Building 11%
- #37 ISLANDERS: New Shores
72% matchOverwhelmingly Positive96% of 1,216 reviews2025
Dev: The StationPub: Coatsink
Windows · Mac
Median: 2.2 hrsMean: 9.4 hrs≥1hr: 62%
Welcome to ISLANDERS: New Shores. Build your island retreat in a calm, minimalist world with exciting new features that keep the classic charm while inspiring fresh creativity.
Why similar: City Builder 28.1%, Colony Sim 21.1%, Building 13.1%, Strategy 8.2%, Puzzle 7.5%
- #38 Dream Park Story
73% matchVery Positive89% of 157 reviews2023
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Create your own amusement park with a variety of rides, mascots, and activities!
Why similar: Colony Sim 31.8%, City Builder 18.7%, Simulation 13.8%, Strategy 11.1%, Building 6.8%
- #39 Mossfield Origins
72% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Studio Any Percent
Windows · Linux
A small cozy community builder where all buildings are based on the same foundation! Take your time, build a sustainable community for your residents in this relaxing game, with no time pressure or external forces. Upgrade foundations via tech tree to redefine and refactor your space.
Why similar: Colony Sim 27.7%, City Builder 20.7%, Building 9.9%, Minimalist 7.5%, Top-Down 6.8%
- #40 Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt
74% matchMostly Positive71% of 1,364 reviews2019
Dev: HandyGames
Windows
Median: 6.3 hrsMean: 14.5 hrs≥1hr: 87%
Townsmen – A Kingdom Rebuilt hands the crown to you: Guide your people from their first steps in a small village to a massive medieval metropolis with thousands of inhabitants.
Why similar: Colony Sim 38.5%, City Builder 23.5%, Simulation 11.7%, Strategy 11.3%, Building 6%
- #41 Venture Towns
73% matchMostly Positive80% of 132 reviews2022
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Make your own metropolitan utopia! Stores, mansions, towers--anything goes!
Why similar: City Builder 26.1%, Colony Sim 23.6%, Simulation 10.8%, Strategy 8.6%, Building 7.9%
- #42 Realm Grinder
73% matchVery Positive87% of 7,385 reviews2017
Dev: Divine GamesPub: Kongregate
Windows · Mac
Median: 4.9 hrsMean: 131.9 hrs≥1hr: 73%
Grow your realm, build alliances, and explore one of the deepest idle RPGs ever!
Why similar: Incremental 34.8%, City Builder 24%, Idler 13.7%, Strategy 7.1%, Pixel Graphics 6.6%
- #43 Legends of Heropolis DX
70% matchMostly Positive72% of 85 reviews2025
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Build the town of Heropolis.Gather your strongest heroes and destroy Evilcorp!
Why similar: Colony Sim 32.2%, City Builder 24.8%, Simulation 11.7%, Casual 6.6%, Building 5.4%
- #44 Legend of Idle
70% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: ActiveDev
Windows
In this incremental game, you must rebuild your kingdom! Gather resources, construct numerous buildings, and set out to conquer everything with your army! A game in the style of the SNES!
Why similar: Incremental 20.8%, Idler 20.5%, Simulation 13.8%, Strategy 11.9%, Arcade 9.4%
- #45 Cavern Adventurers
70% matchMixed66% of 122 reviews2025
Dev: Kairosoft Co.,Ltd
Windows
Build an underground network of caves in this fantasy-themed management sim.
Why similar: Colony Sim 32.4%, City Builder 25.6%, Simulation 9.1%, Exploration 7%, Building 6.3%
- #46 Void Grimm Clicker
69% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Ravery
Windows
Void Grimm Clicker is an upcoming idle game in which you manage a scifi colony.
Why similar: Colony Sim 35.4%, Idler 27.8%, Incremental 22.8%, Strategy 7.4%, 2D 3.7%
- #47 Desktopia: A Desktop Village Simulator
71% matchMostly Positive70% of 216 reviews2022
Dev: The Evergloom Team
Windows · Linux
Median: 2.1 hrsMean: 8.7 hrs≥1hr: 65%
Desktopia is a city-builder game which simulates an evolving, medieval-esque village along the bottom of your desktop, allowing you to work, watch, or browse something else while you play.
Why similar: City Builder 30.7%, Incremental 20.1%, Simulation 14.5%, Idler 9.6%, Immersive Sim 8.6%
- #48 Shape Sweeper
69% match7 user reviews86% of 7 reviews2025
Dev: Code SwordPub: Half Slice Studio
Windows
Shape Sweeper is a idle game where robotic vacuums collect geometric shapes. Deploy PolyBots, merge them to create more powerful collectors, and build your shape-sweeping empire! Huge amount of tech tree upgrades to select from!
Why similar: Idler 23%, Incremental 22.8%, Arcade 12.4%, Simulation 10.2%, Top-Down 9%
- #49 HyphoSphere
68% match3 user reviews33% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: La Maison du Nourson
Windows · Mac · Linux
A fungal idle game where you grow a mycelial empire from a single filament. Click to harvest nutrients, build living organisms, trigger sporulation to prestige, and let your Twitch viewers join the network.
Why similar: Colony Sim 35%, Idler 20.2%, Incremental 17.5%, Point & Click 16.5%, Casual 7.8%
- #50 MOAI 6: Unexpected Guests Collector's Edition
71% matchPositive84% of 19 reviews2020
Dev: GameOn ProductionPub: Alawar Entertainment
Windows
Join two heroes on one grand adventure! Guide Hika-Ri and Kao-Ri on the adventure of their lives and enjoy countless hours of fun on the enchanted island of Tapa-Tui!
Why similar: Colony Sim 21.6%, City Builder 19.5%, Point & Click 10.2%, Building 9.3%, Top-Down 7.5%
- #51 A game about sucking (up ghosts with a Vacuum)
67% matchMostly Positive74% of 23 reviews2026
Dev: Brave Traveller Games
Windows
A short, active incremental game about sucking up a range of cute and mischievous Ghosts with a Vacuum and harvesting their Ectoplasm.
Why similar: Incremental 20.4%, Idler 19.2%, Arcade 10.2%, Minimalist 9.8%, Strategy 9.1%
- #52 Farewells clicker
68% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Team Square
Windows
Farewells Clicker is an addictive blend of clicker and city builder! Expand your island, develop your city, and produce resources endlessly. Upgrade your buildings and skills through a vast skill tree to progress further and further!
Why similar: Idler 22.6%, City Builder 21.5%, Incremental 19.3%, Building 12.8%, Strategy 7.6%
- #53 MOAI 7: Mystery Coast
71% matchPositive81% of 21 reviews2020
Dev: GamefjordPub: Alawar Entertainment
Windows
Hika-Ri is strong and brave and Kao-Ri is skilled in magic, but neither of them were prepared for what happened the day bandits landed on their uncharted shores. Guide Hika-Ri as he embarks on an epic adventure to save his sister from an unknown fate!
Why similar: City Builder 21.7%, Colony Sim 18.1%, Building 10.2%, Point & Click 8.6%, Top-Down 7.9%
- #54 H3X@G0N@L
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: ManoVersa Studios
Windows
Using your knowledge and expertise, make your way through the planet, scavenge its resources and plunder until you are the most powerful factory owner in the universe!
Why similar: Colony Sim 27.8%, City Builder 22.8%, Incremental 17.2%, Top-Down 7.2%, Strategy 6.6%
- #55 Hamlet in a Pond
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Pidibidi Games
Windows
Hamlet in a Pond is a unique looking relaxed city builder. Live out your creativity and build your own little slice of paradise in a tiny pond - with no pressure like goals to reach and no stress from juggling resources.
Why similar: Colony Sim 27%, City Builder 26.5%, Cartoon 11.7%, Strategy 7.7%, Building 7.1%
- #56 One Hunread-Year Kingdom
67% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2025
Dev: DerstyPub: HappyForest
Windows
Use your actions to build your kingdom and manage resources to achieve prosperity. With each turn, the enemy's ambition grows, but with your wise leadership, you can endure for 100 years.
Why similar: Colony Sim 33.3%, City Builder 29%, Strategy 13.3%, Building 9.5%, Puzzle 8.1%
- #57 Luckyest
65% matchVery Positive80% of 238 reviews2025
Dev: Mobmonks
Windows · Mac · Linux
A quick, incremental scratch-and-reveal game focused on compounding choices - set stakes, uncover outcomes, cash out or push for bigger multipliers, and funnel winnings into permanent upgrades that accelerate income and unlock new tools over time.
Why similar: Incremental 20.4%, Idler 19.1%, Point & Click 11.7%, Building 9.1%, Simulation 8.1%
- #58 Sky Tale
69% matchPositive96% of 26 reviews2021
Dev: FrostPeek Studio
Windows · Mac
Sky Tale is a cute city building game about creating lovely islands using various tiles and buildings.
Why similar: Colony Sim 25.9%, City Builder 25.7%, Building 11.8%, Minimalist 10.8%, Puzzle 8.1%
- #59 Nooodles: Brutalism Edition
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: RoRoKaii Works
Windows
Lay connections, build nodes — your network keeps growing. Tokens flow through your body, generating revenue at every node. Revenue builds more nodes, nodes pass more Tokens, and Tokens... you get the idea.
Why similar: City Builder 29.5%, Idler 24.8%, Incremental 20.1%, Strategy 8%, Minimalist 5.5%