- #1 Ghost Clicker: Ethereal Idle
97% matchNo user reviews
Dev: AkameRonin
Windows
Step into the realm of ethereal ghosts in Ghost Clicker! Upgrade your click power, build automation systems, cultivate spectral wheat fields, and transcend through 20 ascension tiers to build your idle empire.
Why similar: Idler 33.5%, Point & Click 28.3%, Casual 20.4%, Automation 17.8%
- #2 Brainrot Clicker
96% match4 user reviews50% of 4 reviews2026
Dev: Fr1ev studiosPub: Fr1ev
Windows
Brainrot Clicker is a chaotic idle clicker where every click earns coins, unlocks upgrades, builds factories, and pushes your brainrot empire further. Click, upgrade, automate, get a j*b, reset, and become even stronger.
Why similar: Idler 37%, Point & Click 22.1%, Automation 20.7%, Casual 13.3%, 2D 5.5%
- #3 Peel a banana
96% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: KaKrno
Windows
Welcome to the simplest yet most oddly satisfying game you'll play today! All you have to do is click to peel a banana layer by layer. Once a banana is fully peeled, it counts as 1 banana. Then it's on to the next one—no breaks, no limits, just endless peeling action!
Why similar: Idler 26.4%, Casual 24.5%, Point & Click 23.2%, Automation 14.8%, 2D 9.2%
- #4 Idle Plinko
95% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: miguelPub: Six Seven Studio
Windows
Build the ultimate Plinko machine in this incremental idle game. Level up to discover unique boards, buy powerful upgrades, unlock special balls, gamble to transform your pegs, and prestige for permanent perks. Compete with players worldwide and climb the leaderboards.
Why similar: Idler 28.9%, Point & Click 23.4%, 1980s 18.6%, 1990's 11.7%, Casual 11.3%
- #5 Idle Block Breaker
94% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: Posh Panda
Windows · Mac · Linux
Sit back and enjoy this Idle Block Breaking game where you can take control and break blocks yourself or turn it to idle mode and watch the game play itself!
Why similar: Idler 42%, 1980s 21.8%, Casual 17.7%, Automation 10.1%, 2D 7%
- #6 Aesthetic Clicker
94% matchMostly Positive77% of 228 reviews2024
Dev: Gh6st
Windows
Aesthetic Clicker is not your average clicker game! Click the sun to get collectable items from time to time.
Why similar: Idler 27.6%, Point & Click 24%, 1980s 16.5%, Casual 16.3%, 1990's 10.3%
- #7 Idle Village
93% match3 user reviews67% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: Trading House Games
Windows
An interactive idle game with a relaxing medieval setting. Start from nothing and slowly build your village by gathering resources and hiring villagers to populate and help build.
Why similar: Idler 36%, Point & Click 20.2%, Medieval 15.3%, Automation 11.7%, Casual 11.6%
- #8 BalloonBreaker
92% matchMixed66% of 29 reviews2024
Dev: NB Software
Windows
Welcome to Balloon Breaker, the addictive and exhilarating game that will keep you entertained for hours! Your mission is simple but challenging: inflate and pop as many balloons as possible using your trusty mouse. Enjoy your balloons!!!
Why similar: Idler 39.6%, Point & Click 33.5%, Casual 24.8%, Indie 2%
- #9 Idle Life - An Idle Game
91% matchMostly Positive75% of 20 reviews2025
Dev: Blackline Development
Windows
A brutally efficient idle game where every resource counts. Build, unlock, and optimize in a game made for grinders, min-maxers, and resource maniacs.
Why similar: Point & Click 23.6%, 1980s 22.2%, Casual 18%, 1990's 13.6%, Idler 11.6%
- #10 Super Stroke The Pants
91% match4 user reviews75% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: Cockroach Studio
Windows
Stroke your special pants! This game is super easy! All you have to do is click and hold! Your score will accumulate and achievements will be unlocked! You are free to keep your score at 100 or become the king of pants! You can enjoy it for the price of a cup of coffee!
Why similar: Idler 31.3%, Point & Click 28.6%, Casual 20.2%, Automation 12.3%, 2D 6.1%
- #11 Mining
90% matchMostly Positive76% of 339 reviews2025
Dev: MaiBaHe
Windows
Mining is a click game where you can click on the mining pile! In Banana, you can click on the heap to mine ore! Occasionally, you may drop a mineral. Come and play with us!
Why similar: Idler 45.9%, Point & Click 29.2%, Casual 16.1%, 2D 7.3%, Indie 1.5%
- #12 WATT FUR? Animal Power Plant
89% match2 user reviews50% of 2 reviews2026
Dev: Mimosa Works
Windows
Hire animals, put them to work, generate electricity, and sell it. But animals are not generators. Will you prioritize profit or protect their well-being? Run your small power plant and uncover why they came to work here.
Why similar: Idler 35.6%, Point & Click 19.8%, Dark Humor 18.5%, Casual 12.4%, Automation 7.4%
- #13 Make The Number Bigger!
89% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Opsmaser
Windows
Make The Number Bigger is a retro incremental game with one objective: Make the number bigger. Press the button, generate numbers automatically, buy upgrades, stack multipliers, and push your total higher and higher. It starts simple. It does not stay simple.
Why similar: Idler 40%, Point & Click 25.5%, Automation 14.2%, Casual 12.7%, 2D 6.3%
- #14 SUPER IDLE POOP CLICKER
88% matchPositive100% of 10 reviews2026
Dev: Root Cellar Games
Windows
A goofy idle clicker about clicking poop and collecting farts, buying upgrades, and watching numbers get absolutely out of control.
Why similar: Idler 33%, Point & Click 27%, Casual 20.4%, Automation 13.4%, 2D 6.2%
- #15 Lumber Jax
87% matchPositive91% of 11 reviews2026
Dev: Jax Ryan
Windows
Chop through hundreds of worlds in a fantasy idle clicker RPG. Upgrade your lumberjack, hire crews, defeat bosses, collect gear and relics, prestige for permanent power, and push deeper into an ever-growing forest.
Why similar: Idler 33.9%, Point & Click 29.4%, Automation 17.2%, Casual 15.2%, 2D 4.3%
- #16 Gold Digger
86% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Sand Games
Windows
A cozy 3D idle game about one very deep hole. Click a shovel, sell whatever comes out of the ground, and spend every coin on digging deeper. There is no bottom.
Why similar: Idler 34.8%, Point & Click 28.4%, Casual 20.3%, Automation 15%, Indie 1.5%
- #17 Egg of Skill Tree
85% matchNo user reviews
Dev: YANASE GAMES
Windows
"Egg of Skill Tree" is a game inspired by "The Egg" and "Path of Exile." Strengthen yourself through the skill tree and break the egg.
Why similar: Idler 39.8%, Point & Click 27.5%, Casual 16.7%, Dark Humor 14.3%, Indie 1.7%
- #18 Berry Bounce
84% match5 user reviews100% of 5 reviews2026
Dev: Vapor Cat Games
Windows
In a world where berries are king and all products are made from some form of berry, you are an enterprising berry farmer, just starting out. Click, chain and collect berries to craft products and upgrade your berry farm!
Why similar: Idler 33.4%, Point & Click 29.3%, Casual 20.2%, Automation 9.4%, 2D 6.3%
- #19 Cookie Monster Clicker
86% match3 user reviews33% of 3 reviews2024
Dev: Comar Studios
Windows
Bake cookies endlessly and feed the monsters! Grow cookie monsters with powerful jaws by making strategic upgrades and hiring workers. Use the prestige system to speed up progress, unlock all upgrades, and enjoy the stunning visual feast!
Why similar: Idler 32.7%, Point & Click 26%, Casual 20.2%, Automation 13.3%, 2D 5%
- #20 Desktop P2W Simulator
83% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: Haram
Windows
A tiny idle game that keeps fighting in the corner of your screen while you do other things. Unlike mobile idle games, it won’t ask you to pay. The odds… might cheat a little. *This game includes randomized items and is ready to deceive you. *But it gives you unlimited currency to obtain them.
Why similar: Idler 36.1%, Point & Click 25.3%, Casual 18.7%, Dark Humor 12.2%, 2D 6.4%
- #21 Desktop Dice Ranch
84% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: zeros
Windows
是一款以骰子为核心的电脑桌面放置养成游戏。通过掷骰获取金币,收集形态各异的骰子,在牧场中繁育后代,解锁组合技与天赋技能,远征击败强敌,最终打造属于自己的终极骰子牧场。
Why similar: Idler 36.2%, Point & Click 24.1%, Casual 14.3%, Automation 13.6%, 1990's 8%
- #22 Number Factory
82% matchMixed44% of 55 reviews2025
Dev: Alerot
Windows
Build the ultimate number production empire! Automate generators, unlock powerful upgrades, and prestige for permanent bonuses. Compete on global leaderboards and watch your numbers grow to infinity in this addictive idle incremental game.
Why similar: Idler 37.6%, Point & Click 25.7%, 1980s 14.6%, Casual 12%, 1990's 9.1%
- #23 Spingenuity
81% match7 user reviews100% of 7 reviews2026
Dev: Tidestep Games
Windows
A relaxing incremental game about spinning a wheel. Use your mouse movement to build momentum and set the wheel in motion. Spend your earnings on upgrades to improve the wheel, spin faster, and earn more money. When progress slows, purchase permanent upgrades through the prestige system.
Why similar: Idler 44.2%, Automation 19.3%, Casual 18.6%, Point & Click 16.3%, Indie 1.6%
- #24 Finger Fury Clicker
82% match2 user reviews0% of 2 reviews2024
Dev: Comar Studios
Windows
Click and create small balls. Progress and earn money. Unlock new features. It's great fun to earn money for free. Don't forget to check the prize bags at short intervals. There will be more prizes in your chest in these bags! In the final, a very special creature will be waiting for you.
Why similar: Idler 46.6%, Point & Click 27.9%, Casual 16.8%, 2D 7%, Indie 1.7%
- #25 Cook & Click
80% matchMixed55% of 11 reviews2026
Dev: Rcaza
Windows
A culinary management clicker game where you chop ingredients, unlock new categories, and open new locations. Automate your production, purchase upgrades to boost profits, unlock special abilities, and compete for challenging achievements. An addictive, endless progression experience.
Why similar: Idler 32.8%, Point & Click 26.9%, Casual 20.9%, Automation 12.9%, 2D 4.9%
- #26 Worm Wars
81% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2025
Dev: MSE GAME WORLD
Windows
Worm Wars is an Io arcade game where you join the fight to become the biggest worm in Worms War. You must eat as much food as possible to grow bigger. Slither your way towards the power-ups to get an edge. This .io game is addictive!
Why similar: Point & Click 30.7%, 1980s 21.7%, Casual 21%, 1990's 13.4%, 2D 6.6%
- #27 Idle Hands
79% match1 user reviews0% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: MatulaPub: Matula Games
Windows · Linux
Summon demons, descend the nine Circles of Hell, and gamble your soul with the Devil. A wicked idle clicker... multiply your power with every descent, tempt fate at the Crossroads, and battle Satan in a duel that never plays out the same way twice.
Why similar: Idler 34%, Point & Click 27.6%, Casual 19.2%, Dark Humor 13.3%, 2D 5.9%
- #28 Library at the End of the Universe
79% matchNo user reviews
Dev: EquiousPub: The Bueno Interactive
Windows
An incremental game where you, the curator of the universe's last library, catalogue history at the end of time. Something is reading what you write, will they influence the record you keep?
Why similar: Idler 33.1%, Point & Click 27.5%, Casual 18.4%, Automation 13.9%, 2D 5.8%
- #29 Toilet Clicker
78% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Redwood Entertainment
Windows
A hilariously absurd idle clicker where you flush toilets to collect bizarre items, and build the ultimate toilet collection with community-voted additions.
Why similar: Idler 34.9%, Point & Click 30.4%, Casual 20.3%, Dark Humor 8.7%, 2D 3.8%
- #30 幻想进度条 Fantasy Bar
78% matchNo user reviews
Dev: 暖果游戏
Windows
Fantasy Progress Bar is a medieval fantasy idle mobile game. Enjoy effortless AFK and free class switching, alongside mythical beast nurturing, equipment forging and mount exploration. You don’t need to keep your screen on — progress continues even offline.
Why similar: Idler 31.4%, 1980s 16.7%, Automation 16.3%, Medieval 11.9%, 1990's 10.7%
- #31 Idle Trash
77% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: G.Saltzpyre
Windows
A simple clicker about cleaning up trash. Click the pile, collect beer can openers, buy upgrades, and clear ever-growing mountains of junk. Leaderboard included.
Why similar: Idler 44.3%, Casual 24.7%, Automation 21.5%, 2D 7.6%, Indie 1.9%
- #32 Rune Legacy Idle
76% matchMixed57% of 125 reviews2025
Dev: Mume Games
Windows
Rune Legacy Idle is a multiplayer fantasy game featuring idle mechanics. Battle mythical monsters, train various skills, and team up or challenge your friends to duels. Enjoy a never ending idle RPG experience.
Why similar: Idler 42.2%, Asynchronous Multiplayer 17.4% ★, Medieval 16.3%, Casual 15%, 2D 5.1%
- #33 Free Lottery
77% matchMixed58% of 11 reviews2025
Dev: tcplay
Windows
Free Lotto is an idle placement game requiring zero operation. It automatically triggers lottery ticket drops at intervals, where low-tier tickets can be synthesized into higher-tier ones, and vice versa via lossless decomposition—ensuring no resource waste.
Why similar: Idler 37.5%, Point & Click 31.4%, Casual 22.2%, 2D 7.3%, Indie 1.6%
- #34 Lint
75% matchMixed68% of 28 reviews2026
Dev: tankpillow
Windows
Lint is a minimalist idle game where lint builds up the longer you stay. Collect it, upgrade your production, and turn tiny dust balls into an unstoppable fluff empire.
Why similar: Idler 37.9%, Point & Click 29.3%, Casual 24.9%, 2D 6.2%, Indie 1.7%
- #35 Dopamine Eggs
74% matchPositive100% of 18 reviews2026
Dev: Eggys Games
Windows
Dopamine Eggs is a next-generation clicker idle game where every upgrade unlocks a new way to play. Earn eggs through a huge variety of activities, from leveling up your mage in an RPG adventure to battling with a collectible card game! the ways to earn eggs are forever endless.
Why similar: Idler 46.5%, Point & Click 29.6%, Casual 14.7%, 2D 7.7%, Indie 1.6%
- #36 Authorisation Engine
76% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Javier de No
Windows
Turn a payment desk into a global authorisation network in this offline incremental strategy game about capacity, compute, mandates, quantum audits, and synthetic jurisdictions.
Why similar: Idler 32%, Point & Click 27.5%, Casual 17.9%, Automation 16.5%, 2D 6.1%
- #37 Click the Download
75% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Royue Games
Windows
Click the Download upgrade your skills to multiply your speed, and conquer every game out there. Become the fastest downloader alive.
Why similar: Idler 55.7%, Casual 31.4%, 2D 10.5%, Indie 2.4%
- #38 Bacteria Buster
73% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: 程序员小灰
Windows
Bacteria Buster is a fast-paced petri-dish cleanup game. Swat bacteria, upgrade your tools, deploy six Nano Robots, and develop four automatic Medicines. Clear a 200-stage campaign, face Super Bacteria and Bacteria Kings, then carry your progress into 1,000 stages of Endless Mode.
Why similar: Idler 38.9%, Automation 22.3%, Point & Click 20.8%, Casual 12.3%, 2D 4.5%
- #39 Catventure
73% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: MissingCat
Windows
Catventure is a cozy and relaxing idle game that can sit at the bottom of your screen (or anywhere else), allowing you to enjoy a peaceful adventure during work or a busy day.
Why similar: Idler 46.8%, Casual 27.3%, Point & Click 17.1%, 2D 8.8%
- #40 Block Clicker
72% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2026
Dev: MaCoGAME
Windows
Break blocks, collect resources, and grow your mining empire in this satisfying clicker game featuring powerful upgrades, automation systems, consumables, missions, achievements, and a prestige system to push your progress even further.
Why similar: Point & Click 33%, Idler 29.6%, Automation 24.6%, Casual 11.4%, Indie 1.4%
- #41 Do Your Dailies
71% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: StripedPack
Windows
Clock in. Roll a number. Do your dailies. Repeat. A deadpan office sim about the games you play out of obligation: one roll a day, play retro games, message on company feed, work on projects together, declare war on other departments. Attendance is always noticed.
Why similar: Idler 35%, Point & Click 22.5%, Asynchronous Multiplayer 12.5% ★, 1990's 12.3%, Casual 11.1%
- #42 メダルのなる木
73% matchMixed63% of 16 reviews2025
Dev: あのゲームの作り方
Windows
Enjoy the medal pusher game on your desktop! For those of you who are busy, the Kamo characters will help carry the medals! Use the medals you've collected to earn even more!
Why similar: Idler 55.4%, Casual 23.7%, Point & Click 18.9%, Indie 2%
- #43 Idle Mythical Beasts
72% matchPositive80% of 10 reviews2025
Dev: 所以然
Windows
Auto-battle against mythical beasts to unlock more powerful ones
Why similar: Idler 44.4%, Point & Click 38.8%, Casual 7.9%, 2D 7%, Indie 1.9%
- #44 Hunt The Ducks
71% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Hypnos Games
Windows
Hunt The Ducks is an addictive shooter that combines retro arcade nostalgia with modern incremental progression. Hunt flocks of ducks, earn coins, upgrade your arsenal, unlock auto-fire systems, and build an unstoppable hunting empire!
Why similar: Idler 42.6%, Point & Click 26.1%, Casual 12.9%, Automation 12.1%, 2D 4.9%
- #45 Money Maker
74% match4 user reviews25% of 4 reviews2023
Dev: Rocco Gough
Windows
Embark on a journey to build the greatest empire ever known by simply clicking your mouse. Your goal is to amass as much wealth as possible, and you'll do so by starting small and gradually expanding your empire one click at a time.
Why similar: Idler 33.9%, Point & Click 29.5%, Casual 16.1%, Automation 13.1%, 2D 5.7%
- #46 HyphoSphere
70% match3 user reviews33% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: La Maison du Nourson
Windows · Mac · Linux
A fungal idle game where you grow a mycelial empire from a single filament. Click to harvest nutrients, build living organisms, trigger sporulation to prestige, and let your Twitch viewers join the network.
Why similar: Idler 32.2%, Point & Click 28.4%, Casual 19.9%, Automation 13.1%, 2D 4.9%
- #47 Whisker Tales
69% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: Buya StudiosPub: Buya Studios
Windows
Join wise cats in an ancient, peaceful library! Click to gather knowledge crumbs, expand your library, bring color to a gray world, and send your cats into epic battles in the mysterious Sakura Room. A heartwarming, fully automated cozy/idle adventure awaits you!
Why similar: Idler 38.6%, Point & Click 31.3%, Casual 21.3%, 2D 7.4%, Indie 1.4%
- #48 Grime Cleaner Idle
70% matchNo user reviews
Dev: TreeCover Interactive
Windows
Run a scrappy dungeon cleanup company. Sweep into procedurally generated dungeons, haul away the mess heroes left behind, hire and gear up a crew, and grow from cramped cellars to colossal, cursed excavations in this lighthearted idle business sim.
Why similar: Idler 38.9%, Point & Click 32.8%, Automation 20.6%, Casual 7.6%
- #49 Click the block 点击方块
70% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2025
Dev: Valois Kuai
Windows
Inspired by 'Cookie Clicker' This is my first game, I hope everyone likes it
Why similar: Idler 43.8%, Point & Click 30.3%, Casual 18.3%, 2D 7.6%
- #50 Cat Store
68% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: Banlilala
Windows
It's a hang-out game that can help you relax during entertainment, work, or even study. It allows for easy window movement without affecting your work area. All you need to do is drag and drop items and reward the cat when you need to relax and take a break.
Why similar: Idler 36.3%, Point & Click 33.2%, Casual 23.5%, 2D 7%
- #51 Smack Your Balls
67% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: Kelli Rose Studios
Windows
Smack Your Balls is a physics-based casual care and score-attack game where you cool, dry, groom, powder, and maintain a reactive ballsack. Master localized care tools, manage changing conditions, survive Sack Attack events, chase high scores, and unlock increasingly questionable equipment.
Why similar: Idler 40.6%, Point & Click 33.2%, Casual 24.3%, Indie 1.8%
- #52 Universe Exploration
68% matchPositive90% of 30 reviews2025
Dev: EricPub: HappyDrifter Works
Windows · Mac
A text-based space idle strategy game where you build machines, expand your territory, and command interstellar fleets on a journey from the Solar System to the far stars
Why similar: Idler 47.1%, Point & Click 26.1%, Casual 19.9%, 2D 5.3%, Indie 1.7%
- #53 Idle Abyss Miner
69% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Yamate
Windows
A relaxing idle incremental game featuring automated mining, miner synergy builds, and abyss exploration. Recruit unique miners, unlock special bonuses, build your automated mining line, and defeat abyssal guardians for rare ores!
Why similar: Idler 40.3%, Automation 23.2%, Casual 15.7%, Point & Click 15.6%, 2D 4%
- #54 Idle Kingdom
69% matchPositive93% of 14 reviews2025
Dev: RandysCode
Windows
Idle Kingdom is all about "number-go-up". Over 10 skills to train, lots of enemies to defeat, and so many items to collect!
Why similar: Idler 41.8%, Point & Click 18.9%, Casual 17.1%, Medieval 16.3%, 2D 4.6%
- #55 Grim-chan's Soul Fight
68% matchPositive100% of 16 reviews2025
Dev: Hi-Develop
Windows
When the grim reaper isn’t just a skeleton, but a super cute girl! Enter a dark fantasy world as Grimchan, who must collect souls to fight against terrifying demons, battling through the minions of the dangerous Demon King for peace."
Why similar: Idler 39.2%, Point & Click 31.8%, Casual 21.6%, 2D 7.5%
- #56 Energy Collector
71% matchMostly Positive74% of 31 reviews2023
Dev: Jens Roderus
Windows
An idler about collecting energy. Automate the collection process, manage your resources by transferring them between fields and buy awesome upgrades. For what? To get more energy!
Why similar: Idler 49.5%, Automation 29.4%, Casual 14%, 2D 4.2%, Indie 2.9%
- #57 Bytecollector
67% matchVery Positive81% of 81 reviews2025
Dev: TheTallLeaf
Windows
Bytecollector is a short, incremental game where you draw loops to collect bytes. Spend them on a skill tree with over 40 upgrades to unlock new mechanics.
Why similar: Idler 28.1%, Point & Click 23.5%, 1980s 22.9%, Casual 10.8%, Automation 8.1%
- #58 Professional Chef
66% matchPositive80% of 25 reviews2026
Dev: Eracu Studios
Windows · Mac · Linux
Transform simple ingredients into delicious dishes in Professional Chef. Buy, cook, sell, upgrade, and unlock new recipes. Optimize your processes, master every detail, and rise to culinary excellence in this engaging idle cooking experience!
Why similar: Idler 35.5%, Point & Click 23%, Automation 21.4%, Casual 12.3%, 2D 5.8%
- #59 I Have More Hours Than You
67% matchPositive80% of 50 reviews2025
Dev: David LawrencePub: DaveDrewGames
Windows
I Have More Hours Than You is an Idle game with a loose abstract story about acceptance. But you'll probably just use it to brag about how many hours you have to your friends.
Why similar: Point & Click 34.6%, Idler 29%, Casual 25.1%, 2D 9.2%, Indie 2%
- #60 Macchinato
65% match3 user reviews100% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: chainfault
Windows · Mac · Linux
A relaxing idle clicker about building a coffee empire. Harvest beans, roast them, and serve caffeinated drinks for profit. Automate each stage, work around your bottleneck, and franchise into a global brand. Designed to run alongside your day, and progress keeps brewing while you're away.
Why similar: Idler 47.3%, Casual 18.7%, Point & Click 17.2%, Automation 11.3%, 2D 5.6%