Games Like Dicey Dungeons

Astrea is a DICE-deck-building roguelike that flips the script on deckbuilders by using dice instead of cards and a unique dual “damage” system: Purification vs Corruption. Build a dice pool strong enough to purify Astrea's out-of-control corruption and save the Star System.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 31.7% ★, Card Battler 15.2%, Dice 14.2% ★, Deckbuilding 10.1%, Turn-Based 9%

Why You'll Like It: It features a unique dice-based deckbuilding system where you manage corruption and purification instead of traditional health.

Tactical dice-rolling roguelike combat. Take control of 5 heroes, each with their own unique dice. Fight your way through 20 levels of monsters and try to take on the final boss. If you lose a single fight you have to start over so be careful (and lucky!).

Why similar: Roguelite 30.4%, Roguelike 28.3%, Dungeon Crawler 27.6%, RPG 9.1%, Casual 4.7%

Why You'll Like It: This game is the closest mechanical match to Dicey Dungeons, focusing entirely on tactical, dice-based combat with unique character classes.

A turn-based dungeon crawler where your only way of attacking the enemy is by rolling dice. Roll dice to damage enemy cards to FOLD. Inspired by classic Solitaire, in a top-down table and enemies made out of cards, try to beat the dungeon with 35 unique classes. Build your deck, kill monsters.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 28.5% ★, Card Battler 15.5%, Dice 12.3% ★, Deckbuilding 9.7%, Mouse Only 9.5% ★

Why You'll Like It: A dungeon crawler that uses dice management as its core mechanic, mirroring the strategic dice-rolling feel of the seed game.

Wield magical dice and build a team of powerful Chimeras to stop a mysterious evil in this tactical roguelite adventure. As a Chimera Summoner, recruit and create your perfect team of mythical beasts and command them to victory using unique dice mechanics.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 59.5% ★, Deckbuilding 13.2%, Roguelite 9.3%, Roguelike 7.6%, Strategy 3.4%

Why You'll Like It: This title emphasizes dice-based combat where you control the faces of your dice to command your team in tactical battles.

We fused card games and roguelikes together to make the best single player deckbuilder we could. Craft a unique deck, encounter bizarre creatures, discover relics of immense power, and Slay the Spire!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 41.2% ★, Card Battler 18.3%, Deckbuilding 9.6%, Turn-Based 7.7%, Card Game 7.4%

Why You'll Like It: As the gold standard of the genre, it provides the foundational deckbuilding experience that Dicey Dungeons builds upon.

The poker roguelike. Balatro is a hypnotically satisfying deckbuilder where you play illegal poker hands, discover game-changing jokers, and trigger adrenaline-pumping, outrageous combos.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 41.7% ★, Deckbuilding 13.2%, Card Battler 11.2%, Card Game 9.2%, Turn-Based 7.7%

Why You'll Like It: This poker-themed roguelike offers an addictive, innovative take on deckbuilding that shares the 'just one more run' appeal.

Circadian Dice is a game inspired by single-player deck-building games, but instead of upgrading a deck, you build up a set of dice! Use 10 different heroes and 60 game-warping relics to take on 13 hand-crafted scenarios, in runs that take 10-30 minutes. Lots of secrets and unlocks to discover!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 51.6% ★, Deckbuilding 16.6%, Card Battler 12%, Card Game 5%, Dice 4.9% ★

Why You'll Like It: It offers a deep, dice-based strategy experience that rewards careful planning and character-specific builds.

Take on the elements in Wildfrost, a tactical roguelike deckbuilder! Journey across a frozen tundra, collecting cards strong enough to banish the eternal winter…

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 37.4% ★, Card Battler 19.7%, Deckbuilding 11.6%, Turn-Based 9.1%, Card Game 6.9%

Why You'll Like It: This tactical card-battler features a charming art style and a unique 'counter' system that requires careful turn-based planning.

DICEOMANCER is a roguelike deck-building game. Though you long for a peaceful life, you're forced to embark on an adventure. In this world of swords, magic, and guns, make good use of your dice and deck to find a way back to tranquility! What can the dice be used for? To change... anything.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 38.9% ★, Card Battler 19.2%, Deckbuilding 11.5%, Card Game 8.8%, Dice 7.7% ★

Why You'll Like It: A dice-based card battler that leans heavily into the chaotic and fun nature of rolling dice to influence combat outcomes.

Peglin is a Pachinko Roguelike - Fight enemies by collecting special orbs and popping pegs to deal damage. Acquire special relics that radically change the game and ensure no two runs are the same. Aim carefully to survive in this unique turn-based RPG!

Why similar: Deckbuilding 32.9%, Turn-Based 22.9%, Roguelite 15.3%, Roguelike 12.7%, Strategy 5.2%

Why You'll Like It: It blends roguelike deckbuilding with physics-based pinball mechanics, capturing a similar whimsical and experimental spirit.

Monster Train is a strategic roguelike deck building game with a twist. Set on a train to hell, you’ll use tactical decision making to defend multiple vertical battlegrounds. With real time competitive multiplayer and endless replayability, Monster Train is always on time.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 32.3% ★, Card Battler 25.1%, Deckbuilding 14.5%, Card Game 8.5%, Roguelite 8.2%

Why You'll Like It: It provides a highly strategic card-battler experience with distinct clans that offer varied playstyles similar to Dicey Dungeons' classes.

The inventory management roguelike! Collect rare items, organize your backpack, and vanquish your foes!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 40% ★, Card Battler 17%, Deckbuilding 14.2%, Turn-Based 12.6%, Roguelite 6.5%

Why You'll Like It: This game turns inventory management into a strategic puzzle, offering a unique twist on the roguelike-deckbuilder formula.

Luck be a Landlord is a roguelike deckbuilder about using a slot machine to earn rent money and defeat capitalism. This game does not contain any real-world currency gambling or microtransactions.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 57.8% ★, Deckbuilding 18.8%, Roguelite 9.6%, Roguelike 5.9%, Strategy 3.5%

Why You'll Like It: This game focuses on slot-machine mechanics to build a 'deck' of symbols, providing a quirky and addictive strategic experience.

Vault of the Void is a fast-paced roguelike deckbuilder where the power is in your hands. Continuously customise your deck, crafting powerful combos and ingenious strategies. Upgrade your cards with Void Stones, infusing them with new abilities to help defeat the minions of The Void!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 41.4% ★, Card Battler 19.6%, Deckbuilding 14.4%, Card Game 7.6%, Roguelite 6.9%

Why You'll Like It: It offers a highly strategic deckbuilding experience where you have total control over your deck and card upgrades.

Fight your way through a mysterious dungeon in this deck-building, turn-based roguelike game where you don't use cards, but dice! Deal with enemies by combining powerful dice on your board, boost their effects with magical relics, and risk it all hoping for a good roll on unexpected encounters.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 30.2% ★, Card Battler 15.1%, Mouse Only 11.1% ★, Deckbuilding 10.8%, Turn-Based 8.4%

Why You'll Like It: A whimsical roguelike deckbuilder that shares a similar lighthearted tone and dungeon-crawling focus.

A puzzle based deck building rogue-like prequel to The Binding of Isaac... Made of cardboard!

Why similar: Roguelite 40.1%, Strategy 12.4%, Deckbuilding 11.5%, Turn-Based 11%, Great Soundtrack 10.3%

Why You'll Like It: This puzzle-heavy roguelike features a distinct, hand-drawn aesthetic and quirky humor that fans of Dicey Dungeons will appreciate.

A new hero rises to challenge the Dealer in Hand of Fate 2! Master a living boardgame of infinitely replayable quests - unlock new cards, build your adventure, then defeat your foes in brutal real-time combat! Draw your cards, play your hand and discover your fate!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 54.1% ★, Deckbuilding 17.2%, Card Game 10.4%, Roguelite 7.3%, RPG 3.2%

Why You'll Like It: It blends card-based deckbuilding with action-oriented combat, creating a unique narrative-driven dungeon experience.

Inscryption is an inky black card-based odyssey that blends the deckbuilding roguelike, escape-room style puzzles, and psychological horror into a blood-laced smoothie. Darker still are the secrets inscrybed upon the cards...

Why similar: Card Battler 39.2%, Deckbuilding 24.7%, Card Game 14.4%, Roguelite 9.6%, Roguelike 8.4%

Why You'll Like It: An atmospheric card-based roguelike that constantly subverts expectations with its dark, immersive world.

Battle your way through a seedy tavern filled with gambling addicted townspeople in this Blackjack Roguelike Adventure. From aces and face cards to tarot cards, business cards and more, create your unique deck to beat the house.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 39.2% ★, Card Battler 16.5%, Deckbuilding 13.1%, Card Game 7.3%, Roguelike 5.8%

Why You'll Like It: This roguelike deckbuilder uses a blackjack-inspired combat system that fits perfectly with the gambling theme of Dicey Dungeons.

Roundguard is a bouncy dungeon crawler with pinball physics, lots of loot, and a randomized castle full of oddballs. Press your luck against hordes of dangerously cute monsters and challenging roguelike elements in this all-round bouncy adventure!

Why similar: Turn-Based 23.8%, Roguelite 16.4%, Roguelike 13.7%, Cartoon 13.7%, Dungeon Crawler 13.3%

Why You'll Like It: A physics-based dungeon crawler that combines roguelike elements with pinball-style combat for a lighthearted adventure.

Set forth in a co-op roguelite deckbuilder where every choice matters! Craft decks of breathtaking power. Journey alone or with up to three friends. Plot your party’s path to glory and face powerful enemies in deep tactical combat on your quest to save the kingdom of Senenthia in Across the Obelisk!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 34.3% ★, Card Battler 16.7%, Deckbuilding 11.7%, Turn-Based 10%, Card Game 6.6%

Why You'll Like It: A party-based deckbuilder that allows for deep tactical customization and cooperative play.

A sci-fi roguelike deckbuilder with a deep new single-axis spin on tactics games! Dodge missiles, line up your cannons, and blast 'em out of the sky... Then get to the bottom of these time loops, before it's too late!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 63.5% ★, Deckbuilding 12.1%, Card Game 11.2%, Roguelike 8.5%, Strategy 4%

Why You'll Like It: This sci-fi deckbuilder incorporates movement on a grid, adding a layer of spatial strategy to the card-battling mechanics.

Griftlands is a deck-building roguelite where you negotiate, fight, steal or otherwise persuade others to get your way. Every decision is important, be it the jobs you take, the friends you make, or the cards you collect.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 23.8% ★, Card Battler 23%, Deckbuilding 15.2%, Turn-Based 11.9%, Roguelite 8.4%

Why You'll Like It: A narrative-focused deckbuilder that features both combat and negotiation decks, offering a fresh take on the genre.

A stylish blend of deck-building, turn-based tactics, and thrilling animated fight sequences in classic action-movie settings. Learn to balance your hand, momentum, and positioning to overcome the odds to defeat your adversaries. Build your deck, control the space and live to fight another day.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 45.6% ★, Deckbuilding 17.9%, Turn-Based 12%, Card Game 7.4%, Strategy 5.3%

Why You'll Like It: It combines deckbuilding with grid-based tactical movement, making every turn feel like a choreographed action scene.

Enter the Ring of Pain, a roguelike card crawler where encounters come to you. Each step around the ring a dire decision. Go for the loot or backstab a creeping horror? Meet strange friends bearing gifts and treasure. Choose your gear wisely to survive and discover the secrets of the Ring of Pain.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 19.3% ★, Turn-Based 19.2%, Card Game 13.5%, Roguelite 11.9%, Dungeon Crawler 10.4%

Why You'll Like It: A card-based dungeon crawler that uses a unique ring-shaped layout to create tense, strategic encounters.

A roguelike deck-building game where you craft a deck, spark talents, discover runes, and assemble your team with partners' cards! Play unique stories for every character and explore a world caught in the clash of gods. New Puppeteer DLC just released!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 34.4% ★, Card Battler 16.7%, Deckbuilding 11.7%, Turn-Based 9.9%, Card Game 6.6%

Why You'll Like It: A solid roguelike deckbuilder that offers multiple character classes and a variety of talent trees for deep customization.

Build a powerful deck, cast spells on the fly, battle evolving enemies, find game-changing artifacts, make friends or make enemies, just make it to Eden.

Why similar: Card Battler 34.4%, Deckbuilding 24.6%, Roguelite 13.1%, Card Game 12.2%, Roguelike 9.3%

Why You'll Like It: A fast-paced, deck-based action game that requires quick reflexes and strategic planning in real-time.

Assemble your party. Answer the call. Win the war. Build a deck and fight a series of turn-based combats with up to 6 party characters through the city of Dawn's Point. Each character can unlock a set of unique cards and abilities that can augment your deck in powerful, exciting ways.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 32% ★, Card Battler 15.5%, Deckbuilding 10.3%, Mouse Only 9.2% ★, Turn-Based 9.1%

Why You'll Like It: A tactical card-battler that emphasizes character positioning and synergy within a squad of anthropomorphic animals.

Dungeon Clawler is a Roguelike Claw Machine Deckbuilder. Build your deck, grab weapons and items from the claw machine to battle enemies, discover powerful perks that create game-changing synergies and unleash crazy combos as you fight your way through the dungeon!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 51.8% ★, Deckbuilding 15.6%, Roguelite 8.4%, Roguelike 6.7%, Dungeon Crawler 6.4%

Lead a party of aspiring heroes through a beautifully hand-drawn world and intense battles using only your wits and a handful of cards. Take on whatever threat comes your way by crafting your own deck choosing from over 100 unique punch-cards!

Why similar: Card Battler 34.6%, Turn-Based 20.6%, Deckbuilding 19.5%, Card Game 12.3%, Great Soundtrack 4.8%

Why You'll Like It: This RPG-deckbuilder features a charming art style and a satisfying card-combo system that is easy to pick up.

Dice Legends is a roguelike deckbuilder with RPG elements in which you become one of 3 heroes, use unique dice to activate cards, and unleash lethal combos to defeat hordes of enemies. Explore the world, collect epic loot, and uncover the mystery of the Last Human — the mage who changed the world!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 38.7% ★, Card Battler 17.7%, Deckbuilding 9.1%, Mouse Only 8.9% ★, Card Game 6%

Tactical deckbuilding in bite-sized sessions. Launch dice to create magical chain reactions. Choose from distinct hero classes with unique abilities. Build synergies between dice, relics, and runes to defeat challenging bosses.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 45.1% ★, Deckbuilding 13.7%, Dice 13% ★, Roguelite 8%, Dungeon Crawler 6.5%

Monster Slayers is a rogue-like deck-building RPG adventure. Create a hero and choose your path through the perilous Northern Valley as you battle monsters to become a legendary Monster Slayer!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 42% ★, Card Battler 15.9%, Deckbuilding 10%, Turn-Based 8.8%, Card Game 6.1%

Why You'll Like It: A classic roguelike deckbuilder that captures the core loop of fighting through dungeons and upgrading your character.

Have you ever tried to roll 1,000,000 on a set of dice? No? Build the right bag of die, and you might just pull it off.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 39% ★, Dice 18.3% ★, Deckbuilding 13.4%, Turn-Based 8.7%, Roguelike 6.2%

Become the coolest kid of the playground in this playful roguelike deckbuilder. Craft every card yourself with adorable stickers and wow your rivals in tug-of-war card battles full of wonder!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 33% ★, Card Battler 16.4%, Deckbuilding 12.2%, Turn-Based 10.7%, Card Game 6.8%

RogueDiceR is a Roguelite Dice-builder. Buy randomly generated dice and modify their values. Attach stickers to grant special effects or strengthen your dice deck with powerful artifacts. Fight your way through randomly generated dungeons filled with monsters, events and bosses.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 33.2% ★, Dice 14.6% ★, Deckbuilding 11.5%, Card Battler 10.8%, Mouse Only 7.1% ★

Explore randomly generated card dungeons where you can only move Right and Down, use Dice to defeat mighty enemies, gather powerful artifacts, and learn new abilities! Will you be able to escape from the dungeon?

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 36.7% ★, Card Battler 17.6%, Deckbuilding 11.7%, Turn-Based 8.9%, Roguelite 6.2%

Sol Cesto is a tactical and frantic roguelite where mastering your luck is key. Choose a hero, upgrade them using cursed teeth and magical items, and descend to the bottom of an ever-changing dungeon. In this dark world, every action has consequences…

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 31.9% ★, Turn-Based 17.5%, Deckbuilding 14.8%, Dungeon Crawler 10.2%, Roguelike 10.1%

Now fully rebuilt and remastered, Guild of Dungeoneering Ultimate Edition is a turn-based dungeon crawler with a twist: instead of controlling the hero you build the dungeon around them.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 68.4% ★, Deckbuilding 8.2%, Turn-Based 5.7%, Roguelike 4.1%, Card Game 3.9%

The iconic roguelike deckbuilder returns. Craft a unique deck, encounter bizarre creatures, and discover relics of immense power in Slay the Spire 2!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 38.3% ★, Deckbuilding 16.5%, Card Battler 13.8%, Card Game 9.9%, Roguelike 8.4%

Dice With Death is a Dicebuilding Roguelike – Unfortunately you have already died. Fortunately, Death is up for some friendly competition. Collect new dice and relics, create damage stacking combos, and even cheat Death himself to emerge victorious.

Why similar: Deckbuilding 29%, Dice 27.9% ★, Roguelike Deckbuilder 21.8% ★, Roguelike 12.3%, Strategy 5.2%

BALLIONAIRE is a fast-paced, kinetic roguelike where strategy meets physics to create outrageous wealth! Find and exploit game-breaking synergies as you theorycraft your way to victory. Welcome to the autobonker genre!

Why similar: Card Battler 29.4%, Deckbuilding 23.6%, Roguelite 12.3%, Card Game 11.7%, Roguelike 10.4%

A completely new style real-time card battle "Overdungeon" Overdungeon combines rogue-like, tower defense and card games. More than 100 cards are Attack, Animal, Building, Spell, Trap, etc..Build your creative and crazy deck!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 38.2% ★, Card Battler 17.3%, Deckbuilding 11.8%, Roguelite 6.2%, Card Game 6.1%

A roguelike deck builder with dice. Fuse dice to create your own powerful custom dice, and aim for even higher scores!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 49.7% ★, Deckbuilding 16.6%, Dice 15.8% ★, Roguelike 6.2%, Cartoon 4.1%

Work your way to the top of a cutthroat game studio in this retro roguelike deckbuilder! Crush the Industry features strategic combat with a unique twist and deep replayability.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 39% ★, Card Battler 15.6%, Turn-Based 11.6%, Deckbuilding 11.4%, Mouse Only 6.4% ★

"Dice Player One" is a roguelike strategy game where dice reign supreme! Roll your dice, seize pivotal moments, and transform limited chances into boundless opportunities. Conquer challenges, unearth hidden secrets, and master the art of dice manipulation!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 42.8% ★, Card Battler 17.6%, Deckbuilding 14.6%, Roguelite 6.8%, Card Game 6.2%

SpellRogue is the ultimate tactical turn-based roguelike! Draft from over 350 powerful spells to assemble the perfect combination and crush your enemies in 70+ unique encounters. Face brutal choices, adapt to impossible odds, and strike back at the horrors that destroyed the world.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 29.9% ★, Card Battler 14.7%, Dice 14.6% ★, Deckbuilding 13.7%, Turn-Based 8.8%

A roguelike dice-building game where the goal is to overcome an ever-increasing target score each round. Assemble a synergistic set of Cats and dice, go for crazy combos and try to attain as high a score as you possibly can. Master the synergy between cats and dice to win!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 32.1% ★, Card Battler 23.5%, Deckbuilding 15.2%, Card Game 8.1%, Roguelite 6.7%

Monster Train returns with all new clans, new enemy factions, new challenges, new modes and more! Defend your Pyre in the classic three-tiered, vertical gameplay that made the original roguelike deckbuilder a hit.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 55.3% ★, Deckbuilding 18.7%, Card Game 10.7%, Roguelike 8.1%, Strategy 3.7%

Pip My Dice is a Yahtzee Roguelike experience. Score enough to make it to the next level, customize your dice to score more and collect relics to create unlimited combos! Collect money through the rounds to buy new dice, relics, and customizers to upgrade your dice. Enjoy a different run every time!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 47.1% ★, Dice 19.3% ★, Mouse Only 12.9% ★, Roguelite 5.8%, Deckbuilding 5.7%

Roll Dice. Get Dopamine. Roll is a highly replayable, deeply strategic, and ultra satisfying dicebuilding game!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 51.7% ★, Dice 23.7% ★, Deckbuilding 13.9%, Roguelike 4.3%, Strategy 3.7%

In Deathless, elements of a collectible card game, roguelike, and turn-based strategy combine seamlessly. Build a unique deck of cards, discover unusual relics, and defeat legendary bosses. No two journeys will ever be the same with endless Path. Crush the Evil and save the world!

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 34.4% ★, Card Battler 14.9%, Deckbuilding 11.3%, Mouse Only 8.8% ★, Turn-Based 8.1%

The House always wins! Except here... Dice Dice Baby is a roguelike dice game about cheating and rolling the craziest numbers to beat the House. Twist a classic game thanks to illegal special dice and create epic combos with lucky charms, all in the world most permissive casino.

Why similar: Dice 42% ★, Deckbuilding 25.1%, Roguelike 16.5%, Strategy 10%, Colorful 2.1%

Iris and The Giant is a fusion of the CCG, RPG and roguelike genres. You play as Iris, who must brave her fears in her imaginary world. Dive into a melancholic and gripping adventure, filled with cute monsters and buried memories. Ready to face your inner demons?

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 32.9% ★, Card Battler 15.6%, Deckbuilding 10.8%, Turn-Based 9.1%, Mouse Only 6.5% ★

Stacklands is a village builder where you stack cards to collect food, build structures, and fight creatures. 🃏 For example, dragging a Villager card on top of a Berry Bush card will spawn Berry cards which the villagers can eat to survive. 🃏 Play your cards right and expand your village!

Why similar: Card Battler 36.7%, Card Game 18.2%, Deckbuilding 17.5%, Roguelite 13.9%, Strategy 4.7%

Solitairica takes RPG combat and challenging roguelike progression to a fresh new place—the world of solitaire! Using a variety of magical items and powerful spells, battle your way through a horde of ever-changing enemies and defeat the horrible Emperor Stuck.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 49.1% ★, Card Battler 19.3%, Deckbuilding 8.9%, Turn-Based 6.5%, Card Game 6.4%

A fresh take on Roguelike Deckbuilders that lets you fine-tune your decks before each run to adapt your strategy on your way to victory. Over 1,200 cards to choose from, ten characters with their own set of unique skills, and dozens of items and missions to evolve your tactics.

Why similar: Roguelike Deckbuilder 40.8% ★, Card Battler 19.5%, Deckbuilding 14.1%, Card Game 7%, Roguelite 7%

The Lich has thrown the world into a timeless loop and plunged its inhabitants into never ending chaos. Wield an expanding deck of mystical cards to place enemies, buildings, and terrain along each unique expedition loop for the brave hero.

Why similar: Deckbuilding 37.9%, Roguelite 19.6%, Card Game 17.9%, Roguelike 16.8%, RPG 4.6%