- #1 Mini Garden Cafe
97% match6 user reviews33% of 6 reviews2023
Dev: MACKINN7
Windows
Mini Garden Cafe is a cute and simple relaxation game where you make and sell coffee, bread, and plants to expand your shop and fill up a Dex.
Why similar: Life Sim 28.5%, Simulation 26.1%, Side Scroller 21.8%, Management 8.7%, Family Friendly 6.5%
- #2 Mini Star Bakery
96% matchPositive91% of 11 reviews2023
Dev: MACKINN7
Windows
Mini Star Bakery is a Simple relaxing game that expands the store by making and selling bread.
Why similar: Life Sim 35.7%, Side Scroller 27.1%, Simulation 20.9%, Cartoony 5.8%, Cute 4.7%
- #3 Mini Star Cafe
96% matchMostly Negative31% of 13 reviews2023
Dev: MACKINN7
Windows
Mini Star Cafe is a Simple relaxing game that expands the store by making and selling Coffee & bread.
Why similar: Life Sim 32.4%, Side Scroller 24.8%, Simulation 18.8%, Management 9.1%, Cartoony 5.6%
- #4 Pet-That-Vtuber!
95% matchPositive96% of 46 reviews2025
Dev: PixelSeraF
Windows
A brutal and honest look into the reality of petting a cute girl on her head. Enjoy the digital warmth of simulated physical affection. Pet Zen on her head. Try different cute outfits. Having fun is encouraged.
Why similar: Simulation 33.6%, Life Sim 27.6%, Point & Click 18.2%, Character Customization 15.3%, 2D 3.2%
- #5 Cozy Tails
94% matchNo user reviews
Dev: GingyPub: Brassberry Studio
Windows
A cozy cat companion game where you decorate a charming room, care for your cat’s needs, and enjoy a tiny relaxing world that lives beside you.
Why similar: Life Sim 32.2%, Simulation 27.5%, Point & Click 17.3%, Family Friendly 9.4%, Management 7.9%
- #6 My Dear Farm
94% matchNo user reviews2027
Dev: Cometa GamesPub: HyperBeard, Inc.
Windows
Grow, decorate, and unwind in My Dear Farm for PC—a cozy farming sim with HD visuals, improved controls, exclusive PC events, and Steam Cloud. Build the farm of your dreams and show off your style!
Why similar: Life Sim 28.3%, Simulation 27.6%, Point & Click 19.2%, Management 9.2%, Family Friendly 7.5%
- #7 H.O.A Simulator
93% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Rayen KamtaPub: GEEKSDOBYTE LLC
Windows
HOA Sim is a comedic suburban patrol game where you enforce neighborhood rules as an overzealous homeowners association officer. Cruise the streets, inspect properties, issue citations, and chase your daily fine quota while balancing speed, accuracy, and pure petty power.
Why similar: Life Sim 42.7%, Simulation 39.4%, Family Friendly 17.1%, Singleplayer 0.9%
- #8 Amber Time Pocket [RPG]
92% match4 user reviews75% of 4 reviews2022
Dev: Aurora
Windows
Free world, a game simulating life, come! Let's experience life together
Why similar: Life Sim 35.5%, Simulation 30.6%, Side Scroller 25.3%, Survival 4.1%, 2D 3%
- #9 My Universe - School Teacher
91% matchMostly Positive73% of 30 reviews2020
Dev: Magic PocketsPub: Microids
Windows · Mac
Play as a young teacher with a mission: bringing your new school back to the top! Motivate your pupils, improve their results and organize school contests and festivals.
Why similar: Life Sim 37.8%, Simulation 28.4%, Management 15.1%, Character Customization 12.8%, Cute 4.7%
- #10 Delivoo Delivery Sim
91% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Vlad Butnaru
Windows · Mac · Linux
Deliver orders through the large city of Peytor Town and save enough money to open a restaurant. Make sure you're ready, as there's a lot of challenges waiting for you!
Why similar: Life Sim 34.7%, Simulation 29.1%, Family Friendly 12.3%, Management 10.5%, Character Customization 8.1%
- #11 The Sims™ 3
90% matchVery Positive86% of 34,221 reviews2011
Dev: The Sims StudioPub: Electronic Arts
Windows
Median: 14.2 hrsMean: 87.9 hrs≥1hr: 87%
The Sims 3: Create the perfect world with full customization at your fingertips. Refine personalities and help fulfill destinies.
Why similar: Life Sim 53.2%, Simulation 24.6%, Character Customization 13.1%, Family Friendly 4.9%, Funny 3.3%
- #12 Unmotivated Heroes
89% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Ward№6
Windows · Mac
An ordinary family in an extraordinary world. Instead of saving the universe, they've decided to fix their house. Clean, repair, and decorate while managing your unmotivated heroes in this satirical domestic sim.
Why similar: Life Sim 43.7%, Simulation 30.5%, Family Friendly 18.8%, Funny 5%, Indie 1.2%
- #13 Awkward Valley
89% matchVery Positive91% of 91 reviews2025
Dev: GallbladderPub: Rue Valley Time Management Department
Windows
Welcome to Awkward Valley! Plan your day, tackle strange activities, and unlock bizarre new options as you go. Gym? Therapy? Vending machine snacks? It’s up to you! Featuring Awkward Yeti’s weird and wonderful characters in a totally normal town.
Why similar: Life Sim 30.3%, Point & Click 19.1%, Side Scroller 18.6%, Simulation 18.5%, Funny 5.7%
- #14 Sea Aquarium Screensaver
87% matchNo user reviews2025
Dev: Spinal Games
Windows
A Virtual Sea Aquarium for relaxation and meditation. Watch the gentle movement of fish and immerse yourself in a calming underwater world. No goals, no controls—just pure visual serenity.
Why similar: Life Sim 40.8%, Side Scroller 31%, Simulation 25.6%, Indie 1.6%, Singleplayer 0.9%
- #15 Fury Life
88% matchNo user reviews2022
Dev: Fury Games Pty Ltd
Windows
Fury Life is a Conway's Game of Life simulator where cells are visualized as animated creatures called "Octos".
Why similar: Life Sim 37.8%, Simulation 33.5%, Management 14.5%, Cartoony 9.9%, Cute 3.6%
- #16 Jane’s Hotel: New story Collector’s Edition
86% matchMixed64% of 28 reviews2024
Dev: STARCO GamesPub: Qumaron
Windows · Mac
The long-awaited reboot of Jane’s Hotel is here. Jane is ready to start new hotels. Start with a small hotel and go further. Three fully upgradable hotels are awaiting.
Why similar: Life Sim 30.5%, Simulation 27.9%, Side Scroller 19.3%, Family Friendly 9.9%, Management 8%
- #17 起業×経営体験ゲーム『おいでよ!スタートアップ村』
86% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Like-Blue Co., Ltd.
Windows · Mac
Startup Village is an entrepreneurship and management simulation board game. Players experience the entire startup cycle: securing funding and hiring staff (Startup Phase), followed by 12 months of realistic business operations (Management Phase) .
Why similar: Life Sim 39.5%, Simulation 35.3%, Management 12.1%, Cute 6.5%, 2D 4.7%
- #18 Project RESONANCE
85% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Soul-Made Games
Windows
Recruit AI bandmates with their own looks and stories, run a maid café together, and turn everyday moments into songs. Every album is generated live for your story—no two bands sound alike. Take music that's yours alone from a street-corner livehouse to the city's biggest stage.
Why similar: Life Sim 39.8%, Simulation 34.2%, Management 12.5%, Cute 5.3%, 2D 4.7%
- #19 Guildream
84% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: TeamDiKi
Windows
Kicked out by his father for not becoming fully human, the protagonist is left in charge of a neglected guild. Guildream is a casual and comedic simulation game where anyone can enjoy managing a quirky guild.
Why similar: Life Sim 29.5%, Management 16.8%, Point & Click 16.8%, Simulation 12.1%, Family Friendly 9.7%
- #20 Path of Yuusha
84% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Breakfast Bird Games
Windows
"Path of Yuusha" is a simulation game set in the Yuusha academy with life sim elements of decorating your room freely and attempting events at local town. Experiencing the daily life of a school student who is busy with classes and work, Manages your weekly schedule to become a splendid hero.
Why similar: Life Sim 37.5%, Simulation 35.8%, Management 9.7%, Character Customization 7.9%, Cute 4.6%
- #21 Bloom Island
83% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Snuggle Cat
Windows
Escape to Sunny Solana, your cozy island. Gather resources to craft, explore, and decorate. From dawn butterfly hunts to sunset fishing, live the seasons in this charming, ever-changing world.
Why similar: Life Sim 43.9%, Simulation 40.5%, Family Friendly 12.6%, Indie 1.6%, Singleplayer 1.4%
- #22 Plumbo
82% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Ozzbit Games
Windows
A playful desktop companion that reacts to everything you do to him. Pet, toss, or annoy Plumbo... just don't push your luck.
Why similar: Life Sim 42.8%, Simulation 27%, Family Friendly 8.3%, Character Customization 6.2%, Funny 5.9%
- #23 桌喵
82% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Goldroot Studio
Windows
一只猫咪住进你的桌面,在屏幕角落自由生活、陪你工作。每天摸摸、喂喂、逗逗,看它从奶猫慢慢长成御猫;布置猫窝、收集品种、养一整窝猫,还能派它们出门打工攒鱼干。零压力——不会饿死、不会走丢,关机离线也安心。
Why similar: Life Sim 33.2%, Simulation 31.7%, Point & Click 20.8%, Cartoony 5.9%, Cute 3.7%
- #24 Elevator Pitch
81% match2 user reviews50% of 2 reviews2025
Dev: Solo Gaming Studios
Windows
A corporate parody JRPG. Battle coworkers, bosses, and the entire board of directors as you fight your way to the top of a satirical office tower. Build your team, master turn-based combat, and survive the most hostile workplace in gaming.
Why similar: Life Sim 48.5%, Simulation 44.7%, 2D 5.7%, Singleplayer 1.1%
- #25 Princess Maker : Children of Revelation
80% matchMixed73% of 512 reviews2025
Dev: GEAR2
Windows · Linux
「Princess Maker: Children of Revelation」is a raising simulation game that returns after 18 years as part of the "Princess Maker" package series, where you raise a young girl into adulthood. Become a parent in the game and help fulfill your daughter's dreams!
Why similar: Life Sim 48.2%, Simulation 39.7%, Cute 6.2%, 2D 4.4%, Singleplayer 1.5%
- #26 Virtual Families 3
81% matchMixed65% of 130 reviews2023
Dev: Gogii Games Corp.
Windows
The sequel to the smash hit mobile game “Virtual Families 2” is here!
Why similar: Life Sim 39.6%, Simulation 32.9%, Family Friendly 11.7%, Character Customization 7.9%, Cute 4.1%
- #27 Not A Customer
79% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2026
Dev: OpvPub: Opv Game Studio
Windows
Good job! you just got hired at your local grocery store and have to serve customer, it's simple as it sounds but theres a twist, make sure you serve real humans and not dopplegangers or it might be your last shift...
Why similar: Life Sim 42.8%, Point & Click 28.8%, Simulation 26.2%, Indie 1.5%, Singleplayer 0.8%
- #28 Microwave Simulator
79% match4 user reviews100% of 4 reviews2026
Dev: Alice Games
Windows
An absurd sandbox where you put random objects in a oven and see what happens. Heat, melt, explode, or discover the unexpected.
Why similar: Life Sim 44%, Simulation 39.4%, Character Customization 9.3%, Funny 6.6%, Singleplayer 0.7%
- #29 Birch
78% matchNo user reviews
Dev: ANYMACTION STUDIO
Windows
On your desktop, little birds settle quietly on your icons. They react when you come close — ignore them and they won't mind. But the more you're around, the more they get to know you.
Why similar: Life Sim 39.4%, Simulation 34.3%, Family Friendly 13.2%, Cute 6.4%, 2D 4.6%
- #30 Hollywood Story®: Fashion Star
77% matchPositive82% of 11 reviews2025
Dev: NANOBIT
Windows
Dreaming of Hollywood stardom? Hollywood Story offers you the chance to turn dreams into reality! Step into the star-studded streets of Hollywood and carve your own path to fame. Dominate the red carpets, mingle with celebrities, and build your fashion empire to become the ultimate Hollywood icon!
Why similar: Life Sim 34.4%, Simulation 19.7%, Character Customization 14.6%, Family Friendly 11.8%, Cartoony 8.4%
- #31 Dream Home Simulator
77% match1 user reviews0% of 1 reviews2024
Dev: Dream Studio
Windows
Explore a beautifully crafted modern apartment in Dream Home Simulator. Relax and walk through a detailed, fully furnished space, offering a glimpse of your dream home in a peaceful, casual experience.
Why similar: Simulation 52.2%, Life Sim 45.9%, Singleplayer 1.9%
- #32 My Hotel Simulator
76% matchMixed48% of 52 reviews2025
Dev: Digital MelodyPub: Games Incubator
Windows
Build and manage your own hotel, from a small property to a luxury resort. Design rooms, maintain cleanliness, develop amenities, and offer guests unforgettable experiences at your hotel!
Why similar: Life Sim 36.6%, Simulation 31.6%, Management 16.8%, Family Friendly 6.6%, Cute 4.2%
- #33 Husbandry
78% matchVery Positive80% of 141 reviews2020
Dev: Average Games
Windows · Mac
As an entrepreneur from a far away galaxy, raise and breed the exotic creatures of Earth, then sell them back to your home world.
Why similar: Management 20.8%, Simulation 17.7%, Point & Click 16.4%, Family Friendly 12.6%, Funny 9.9%
- #34 Grandma Left Me A Building
76% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Overbaked Studio
Windows · Mac
A cozy apartment management sim where you restore the ruined building your grandma left you. Find tenants, collect rent, upgrade the place. But don't make the mistake of having a midnight guitar-shredding elf and a philosophy-lecturing yeti as neighbors. Endless requests, sweet chaos await.
Why similar: Life Sim 33.3%, Simulation 19.3%, Management 16.9%, Family Friendly 8.8%, Funny 6.5%
- #35 Finnish middleschool simulator
75% matchNo user reviews2028
Dev: Rynkky digital
Windows
In this simulation, you can live the life of dreams. The game is completely open world, and besides attending school, you can also customize your moped, drink alcohol, and enjoy the sauna. If you’re not in the mood for school, you can tell the teacher to fuck off and come to school drunk.
Why similar: Life Sim 45.1%, Simulation 41.6%, Funny 10.8%, Indie 1.6%, Singleplayer 0.9%
- #36 Technology Market Simulation
74% matchPositive100% of 11 reviews2025
Dev: LoreleiTech
Windows
Run your own tech store in Technology Market Simulation! Buy, sell, and strategize to grow your business. Customize your shop, manage inventory, and build your tech empire!
Why similar: Life Sim 38.9%, Simulation 34.9%, Family Friendly 13%, Management 10.9%, Indie 1.6%
- #37 Europe Heatwave Simulator
74% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: swissm4n
Windows
It's 42°C. You have no air conditioning, because you live in Europe. You have a remote job, a useless fan on the way from GreedCo, and 14 days to survive in a Paris apartment that has become an oven. Good luck.
Why similar: Life Sim 40.9%, Simulation 35.8%, Management 11.9%, Funny 5.8%, Survival 5%
- #38 Labyrinth of anxiety
73% match3 user reviews67% of 3 reviews2026
Dev: JordiAStudios
Windows
You are trapped in a labyrinth of identical rooms that repeat endlessly. The goal is to find the right door and move forward before anxiety consumes you. Every decision matters... the labyrinth doesn't forgive mistakes.
Why similar: Life Sim 49.7%, Simulation 47%, Indie 1.9%, Singleplayer 1.4%
- #39 Cat Hostel 开一间猫咪民宿吧!
73% match1 user reviews100% of 1 reviews2025
Dev: 绿橘子
Windows
Open a cat hotel where you can pet cats!
Why similar: Life Sim 55.6%, Simulation 35.4%, 2D 6.2%, Indie 1.8%, Singleplayer 1%
- #40 Wash & Warm
73% matchNo user reviews
Dev: Eternal Clover Studio
Windows
🧺 A cozy 2D life sim about running a small-town laundry. Wash, dry, and iron clothes for townfolks. Upgrade your shop, decorate your space, and discover heartwarming stories behind every piece of clothing.
Why similar: Life Sim 36.2%, Simulation 20.7%, Point & Click 20.1%, Management 12.2%, Cute 5%
- #41 Kyo's Routine
75% match8 user reviews88% of 8 reviews2020
Dev: heyjeffPub: STUD1O
Windows
Kyo's girlfriend is in hospital, and to save her $20000 are needed. Kyo will begin a boring routine to make money and finally ask her to marry him.
Why similar: Life Sim 40.3%, Side Scroller 35.8%, Management 16.3%, 2D 5%, Indie 1.7%
- #42 Cuddle Corner
72% match5 user reviews100% of 5 reviews2025
Dev: Dango Dynamics
Windows
Meet your tiny companions in this adorable desktop pet simulation. Feed them with care, play together, and create a cozy home with colorful decorations. Whether you’re working, gaming, or on a break, spend time with these charming friends.
Why similar: Life Sim 30.5%, Simulation 25.6%, Character Customization 10.7%, Family Friendly 10.7%, Point & Click 9.3%
- #43 Cooking Stories: Fun Cafe Game
72% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: AY GamesPub: Brightika, Inc.
Windows
Play Cooking Stories — a fun time-management cooking game! 🍳 Manage your café, upgrade and decorate restaurants, create delicious dishes, and help your star chef shine. 🌟 Explore cooking, design, and strategy in one tasty adventure. Download now and start cooking! 🔥
Why similar: Life Sim 39.3%, Simulation 34.1%, Family Friendly 11%, Management 9.1%, Cute 5.2%
- #44 Youtubers Life 2
71% matchMostly Positive72% of 2,272 reviews2021
Dev: UPLAY Online
Windows · Mac
Median: 5.7 hrsMean: 16.5 hrs≥1hr: 86%
Start from humble beginnings and take charge of the daily life of a wannabe influencer. Balance your day between creating trend-based content, completing tasks to earn money, and building trust with your neighbors to uncover their stories. Are you ready to embark on your road to fame?
Why similar: Life Sim 30.4%, Simulation 15.3%, Character Customization 12.7%, Family Friendly 12.5%, Management 12.2%
- #45 Pay Off The Mortgage
71% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Big Yawn
Windows
Pay Off The Mortgage is a cozy clicker where every dollar matters. Work, get promoted, survive the bank’s endless taunts and hunger for your money, and chase the impossible dream of owning your home. But whatever happens… Please take care of Greg, he keeps the house warm.
Why similar: Life Sim 34.2%, Simulation 32%, Management 15.5%, Point & Click 12.7%, Funny 4.5%
- #46 Electronics Supermarket Simulator
69% matchMixed62% of 13 reviews2025
Dev: Midnight Games
Windows
Build and manage your own electronics retail empire in Electronics Supermarket Simulator. Design the perfect store, master inventory, outsmart your competitors, and grow your business into a tech giant. Are you ready to dominate the market?
Why similar: Life Sim 38.3%, Simulation 24.2%, Family Friendly 14.1%, Management 11.6%, Cute 6.7%
- #47 Incralife
70% matchNo user reviews
Dev: VlasixArts
Windows
Live an unpredictable life shaped by evolving choices, random opportunities, and the habits you build over decades. Grow your skills, build wealth, form relationships, and discover which unique Life Archetype your story becomes.
Why similar: Life Sim 40.8%, Simulation 37.5%, Character Customization 11%, 2D 7.1%, Singleplayer 1.8%
- #48 Desktop Friend
69% matchPositive91% of 11 reviews2025
Dev: Chilly Kitty
Windows · Mac · Linux
A cozy desktop pet that lives on your monitor. Care for it, play with it, and watch it grow over time. Inspired by the virtual pets of the '90s (e.g., Tamagotchi*), now designed for your everyday PC life.
Why similar: Life Sim 36%, Simulation 30%, Management 9.4%, Family Friendly 9.3%, Character Customization 5.6%
- #49 Quarantine simulator
71% matchPositive90% of 10 reviews2020
Dev: Maria RPub: BERRY Games
Windows
You have to stay at home in quarantine. Get out of here, unless you want to blow your brain. Are you a real pro? I got a little surprise for you!
Why similar: Life Sim 39.6%, Simulation 32%, Management 17.8%, Survival 8.2%, Indie 1.3%
- #50 After Gym: Gym Simulator Game
70% match1 user reviews100% of 2 reviews2023
Dev: Bitzooma
Windows
Use different ingredients and make potions to help athletes become supergiants.
Why similar: Life Sim 31.4%, Simulation 23.8%, Management 19.1%, Point & Click 17.2%, 2D 4.2%
- #51 Roadhouse Simulator
69% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: DRAGO entertainment
Windows · Mac
Go from bouncer to owner of a roadhouse in this prelude to Gas Station Simulator where you take on the role of the uncle and explore his humble beginnings.
Why similar: Life Sim 38.9%, Simulation 32.1%, Family Friendly 11.8%, Management 10%, Funny 5.5%
- #52 AlterLife
68% matchNo user reviews
Dev: VGG Studio
Windows
Get up in the morning, go to work, cook your meals, play with your friends - just live! AlterLife is a powerful virtual life simulator where you can make your biggest dreams come true!
Why similar: Life Sim 37.6%, Simulation 20.8%, Character Customization 16.4%, Family Friendly 12.5%, Funny 6.8%
- #53 Fedorable Life
68% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Fat Samurai Games
Windows
A text-based comedy life simulator about managing a fedora-clad neckbeard through anime, gaming, internet arguments, conventions, collectibles, and questionable decisions. Raise your stats, unlock collectibles, pursue multiple endings, and discover just how Fedorable life can become.
Why similar: Life Sim 39.9%, Simulation 35.3%, Management 11.5%, Funny 6.6%, 2D 4.7%
- #54 Paralives
64% matchVery Positive90% of 18,920 reviews2026
Dev: Alex Massé and teamPub: Paralives Studio
Windows · Mac
Median: 4.5 hrsMean: 8.7 hrs≥1hr: 87%
Paralives is a life simulation game about building homes, lives and bonds. Through both hardship and success, where will your story take you?
Why similar: Life Sim 47%, Simulation 23.2%, Character Customization 19.6%, Family Friendly 5%, Cute 2.2%
- #55 The Quarantine
67% matchNo user reviews
Dev: BgiantStudio
Windows
Experience a blend of survival horror and strategic management. Fortify your base, manage resources, and scavenge for supplies in a world overrun by monstrous creatures and corrupted by blight blooms.
Why similar: Side Scroller 37.5%, Life Sim 36.9%, Simulation 21%, 2D 4%, Singleplayer 0.5%
- #56 Signal Zero
67% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: Logan Whitcomb
Windows · Mac
A tense emergency dispatch simulation. Route police, fire, and EMS units across a city that never stops. Pick the right unit, beat the clock, keep your reputation above zero — or the city finds a new dispatcher.
Why similar: Simulation 49.5%, Life Sim 44.2%, 2D 5.1%, Singleplayer 1.1%
- #57 Pakku Pony
67% matchNo user reviews2026
Dev: wavecipher
Windows
Pakku Pony is a 2D virtual pet simulator where you raise your own pony! It’s a chill point-and-click game where you take care of your little garden, cook delicious dishes and relax with fun minigames. Oh, and don’t forget to look stylish with cosmetics and customization options!
Why similar: Life Sim 34.8%, Simulation 29.5%, Character Customization 13.5%, Point & Click 11.7%, Cartoony 4.5%
- #58 Better Me Tree: Daily Affirmations
68% matchNo user reviews2025
Dev: Better Me Tree
Windows
Better Me Tree: Daily Affirmations is a self development application that includes simple objectives that are spoken aloud by the user to promote daily positive reflection, motivation, encouragement and edification.
Why similar: Life Sim 30.9%, Simulation 23.8%, Family Friendly 18.9%, Point & Click 15.9%, Cartoony 8.1%
- #59 Ministry of Stoic
66% match5 user reviews100% of 5 reviews2025
Dev: r4kujin
Windows
A short, chill game about managing a ramen stall-front to distribute contraband 'cute-ware' to the masses in rebellion against a nation-wide strict anti-aesthetic policy.
Why similar: Simulation 37.5%, Side Scroller 22.5%, Point & Click 22.1%, Family Friendly 8.3%, Cute 4.5%